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  • What is with such silly notions as families created by other means than natural conception as being inllegitimate families??
    A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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    • Originally posted by obiwan18
      At least she tried to conceive. Are all homosexuals biologically infertile, in the same sense as your boss' wife?
      What's the difference?

      Why is invitro wrong, since that involves a third party?

      I know several married couples who were capable of conceiving, but adopted instead. Is that wrong, yes or no?

      I know several married couples who were capable of conceiving, but simply chose not to have kids. Is that wrong, yes or no?

      Does any of that have any bearing on the status of their marriage? Yes or no?
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      • I know several married couples who were capable of conceiving, but adopted instead. Is that wrong, yes or no?
        Nothing wrong with a married couple choosing to adopt.

        I know several married couples who were capable of conceiving, but simply chose not to have kids. Is that wrong, yes or no?
        Irrelevent to the issue at hand. Choosing not to have kids does not bring a third party into play. You're trying to have me back into a different argument.

        It's not wrong, but not really a good choice. One of the expectations of a marriage is to produce a family. There are other options, if you are not planning to have kids than to get married.

        Eh, now I have to exempt adoption from the other examples, from in-vitro, etc. I don't agree with in-vitro unless one of the parties actually is infertile.

        The reason why adoption is different than the other examples is that the child is already here, and needs a loving family. In-vitro seeks to conceive a child.
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        • The root meaning of the word is fear of anything that differs. And judging from the increasing trend towards conservatism in America, it's a social phenomenon that could be said to be reaching endemic proportions.
          Alinestra: Have to say that I agree. Whats more though, I think its a complacent attitude among humans in general, throughout societies. We have shown through more "enlightened" periods in our history (1968 ) that we are capable of moving beyond these punitive, subjective, ethnocentric distinctions between people, and superficial differences being used to determine entire cultural groups and discriminate among them, I just hope that people who advocate treating others diffferently based on their "race" or sexuality or gender etc will see beyond this subjective, narrow-minded notion.

          It causes us more harm the longer it goes on without being combated.
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          • yeah some gays are insufferable and irritating like boris for example.

            they think everyone else is gay or should be gay


            heterophobia indeed.

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            • Originally posted by paiktis22
              yeah some gays are insufferable and irritating like boris for example.

              they think everyone else is gay or should be gay


              heterophobia indeed.


              Where did you get that impression of Boris?

              I can speak for myself though -- I certainly don't think everyone should be gay -- and besides, that would not be possible, since sexual orientation is not a choice.
              A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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              • under 10% of the population is anyway.

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                • Actually, no one knows the exact percentage -- people argue over the range 1% (which really is a gross underestimate) to 15% (which might be an overestimate).
                  A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                  • Do a Poly poll, I see no reason why the results would be wildly skewed here, unless people intentionally misvote to do so.
                    One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                    • Originally posted by Big Crunch
                      Do a Poly poll, I see no reason why the results would be wildly skewed here, unless people intentionally misvote to do so.
                      Wanna hear an oxymoron?

                      accurate Poly poll
                      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                      • Boris is quite likeable.

                        Others (of the kind) are less. I won't call any names

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                        • Would you like to tell her that since it's through a third party
                          Go on then, Woss your boss' email address?
                          Up The Millers

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                          • Originally posted by MrFun


                            Wanna hear an oxymoron?

                            accurate Poly poll
                            I never said it would be accurate, I said it wouldn't be wildly skew.
                            One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                            • that's just MrGa.. err, MrFun being himself...

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                              • Originally posted by Ecthelion
                                that's just MrGa.. err, MrFun being himself...
                                I love you too, Ecthelion.
                                A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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