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  • Swiss' message sounds good.

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    • reply ...

      Hi Swiss,

      PAL has not told me to pull the trigger on that proposed trade. Marble does us zero good right now. We aren't building wonders. Since neither team seems to have a burning need for any of the resources involved, I guess it's in limbo for now.

      We intend to equip Realms with Ivory for elephants though, don't worry.
      Quote: "All Happiness is the release of internal pressure"
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      • Have we handed over Lit yet? If so, we could point out HE & NE.

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          Hi PAL,

          We understand that you don't have use for Marble right now. We were under the impression that you might want to work on the National Wonders opened up by Literature. Since you're apparently working on other things we can work on a Marble trade later if it makes sense. In the meantime, we would like to get access to Ivory ASAP (preferably this turn for happiness reasons) as per our agreement. Of course we'd then gift you Wine as soon as we have it hooked up in four turns. Is that acceptable?

          -RB

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          • good except change 'Is that acceptable?' to 'Lets do it!'
            Quote: "All Happiness is the release of internal pressure"
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            • email sent:

              Hi Cres,

              No worries about the marble deal; we thought you'd be interested in a speedy Heroic Epic...

              If you send us this turn (T110) the ivory resource as promised, we will gift you our wines as soon as we connect our second source, which should be ~4 turns (the mapmaker put them under a forest for some reason). We'll each be gifting each other a resource, so essentially doing an ivory for wines trade. We trust this even trade is acceptable for PAL.

              Cheers,

              Swiss

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                Hi Swiss.
                Marble for Ivory. Ivory is strategic for both teams as soon as you can get HBR (for both teams). Gems for Wines.
                I am authorized to do Marble for Ivory... and Gems for Wines.

                I can't log in to the game right now? You having similar problems?
                we'll talk soon.
                -cres
                Quote: "All Happiness is the release of internal pressure"
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                • Hmmmm, yeah that's probably not the response we wanted, but I guess we might have expected it. I think we have to go for it in the short term and then renegotiate in 10t or so.

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                  • I don't object to that, although it's definitely not what they were saying earlier. Sooner or later, we might want to ask them, "if you consider ivory a strategic resource, why did you trade it to Imperio for gold?"

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                    • Agree, they're changing their story a bit, but it's fine since we don't need Marble any longer.

                      One little chink in the PAL armor - it looks like they actually didn't know Marble doubled HE/NE speed. Notice how they had no use for it until they were reminded by us that Literature and Marble opened up? MP guys rarely (ever?) build those wonders, so they may be facing a bit of a knowledge gap.

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                      • Marble for Ivory sounds perfectly reasonable to me. We do have two marbles. Any trades involving the second one are just hypothetical at the moment with uninterested partners. And I agree with Sullla - we need that Ivory ASAP for happiness at whatever cost it takes.

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                        • Let's offer Marble for Ivory as soon as somebody can log in.

                          And renegotiating that deal later would be bad for us, because once national wonders are built, they will no longer need Marble.

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                          • I logged in and offered the trade:



                            Here's a picture of a rabbit stack:

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                            • FYI, PAL still hasn't accepted the marble deal. I don't think they rejected it, they just haven't logged into the game at all. Can someone fire off a quick message, telling them to log in and accept the deal? We're not ending our turn until they do.

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                              • Originally posted by Sullla View Post
                                FYI, PAL still hasn't accepted the marble deal. I don't think they rejected it, they just haven't logged into the game at all. Can someone fire off a quick message, telling them to log in and accept the deal?

                                Hello? Guys? Would someone please send this message? PAL still has not accepted (or rejected our offer). Thanks.

                                19 hours left on the clock. I'd love to end our turn so we can continue moving forward with the game.

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