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  • #91
    Originally posted by Grigor
    Your preference for defending with horses instead of phalanx is interesting and in this game compelling with all the distances.

    DaveV knows his ICS!

    I am a recent convert to defending with horses/warriors rather than Phalanx. A phalanx defends better than a warrior or horse, obviously... but will probably lose to a legion/elephant, and maybe to a chariot or multiple horses.

    Using horses as defenders gives you the ability to attack your enemies before they attack your city - plus they are invaluable vs barb archers which defend at 1, not 2. If your horse loses, moreover, the city doesn't lose a population point.

    And of course, for martial law, 2 warriors are better than 1 phalanx. Sprinkle in a few horses in trouble areas and you have a good defensive scheme, proactive rather than reactive.

    When I build Phalanxes, I do so where the surrounding terrain (which enemies attack from) is rough, meaning that my horse defender might have trouble dispatching the attacking unit.
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    • #92
      "Also, @obiwan18 - could you install 2.42 in a diff directory and still play?"

      SCG

      My original Civ2 cd no longer works, IIRC it's 5 years old anyways. Could this work with the CiC cd which I do have on me?

      *thinks about how to do this*

      What if I were to create two civ 2 folders, both with the MGE updates, and then reinstall the CiC version over one of the MGE folders. Would this work? Would I have to delete some of the 'extra' files needed for MGE?

      Suggestions greatly appreciated.
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      • #93
        Originally posted by DaveV
        2500 1 gold - I like a bit more in reserve than that.
        sorry about that - originally i had played to 2450 so used old save that had the rush-buying - i would have normally held off rushbuying when the next player was taking over that turn


        Originally posted by obiwan18
        Could this work with the CiC cd which I do have on me?
        looks like CiC is version 2.62, so wouldn't be loadable with 2.42 although you would still be able to load 2.42 games
        Last edited by SCG; January 22, 2003, 20:04.
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        • #94
          Got a DiskDr & I've already fixed 2 CDs.
          Spoiler:
          If it is only the Civ2.exe you need a no-CD hack will take care of it. Most of the other files you can get here and there.
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          • #95
            OK will be on it soonest..

            Dave - that was my favourite big toe

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            • #96
              Straybow- that sounds fine. Could you PM me please?

              BTW how does one do spoilers?

              edit:
              Spoiler:
              ming doesn't like that, straybow.
              Last edited by Ben Kenobi; January 23, 2003, 04:53.
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              • #97
                Originally posted by Straybow
                Got a DiskDr & I've already fixed 2 CDs.
                Spoiler:
                If it is only the Civ2.exe you need a no-CD hack will take care of it. Most of the other files you can get here and there.
                Stray,

                A little help please. When I highlight nothing happens. Where does one find decoder ring??

                Monk
                Last edited by Bloody Monk; January 23, 2003, 18:07.
                so long and thanks for all the fish

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                • #98
                  Rabid Aggressive Rodent takes the helm

                  Nothin' Fancy Succession

                  The Gits having a Thursday Session...

                  1750 = 50 CF Vikings; 6 cities - 6 settlers - guess who went last? Madrid Settler pre-empted to Trireme - plan to rush Temple and start WoW;

                  1700 = Barcelona; Vikings broke;
                  1650 = Currency -> Trade; Vikings still broke;
                  1600 = Barbarian landing near Hello there - Horse rushed; Vikings nada
                  1550 = Chariot kills Barb Legion becomes Vet - gamble unit against 150 for King ...; Vikings War
                  1500 = Barb Legion goes to red, but stout Archer dies; Vikings (now Pathetic) War;
                  1450 = Barb Legion commits harakiri; King captured 150g; We have slipped to Mighty; Vikings still broke;
                  1400 = Temple in Madrid; start Settler (for future Caravan); Valladolid; Vikings won't talk;
                  1350 = Saragossa; Vikings (Inadequate) broke; We are Supreme;
                  1300 = Vikings not talking;
                  1250 = Trade -> Pottery; Vikings offer Wheel - we say no way are you slowing down Pottery - they then offer 50g for CF - gratefully accepted;
                  1200 = 200,000; Accept Peace with warm furry vikings - who have brought up an archer and a phalanx to threaten our choke point;
                  1150 = nothing much
                  1100 = much tickling
                  1050 = Cadiz; All emphasis now on research - Pottery (for the Gardens) now two turns away as are the requisite 4 caravans - hint, hint!
                  1000 = Pottery (lucky) -> Mysticism; Vikings opt for War again and lose a Settler;

                  We have two fortified Food caravans in Madrid; one en route and one just completed in Central Beach; The caravan in Barca is Beads (demanded in Madrid) caravan from Seville which will give our treasury and abacus a nice boost; The Gardens shall be Spanish!! (or else - said in robust constructive criticism mode ) The Vikings have been left alone for far too long they have The Wheel - and would have given it to us had we demanded tribute earlier to the detriment of our Pottery research; We have many workers out to sea to get the arrows - this might well be revised now The Gardens are ours.

                  Passing the baton (and the Gardens) SG[1] with (2)'s very able assistance
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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Grigor
                    Uh - I have 2.42, I thought. I certainly do not have multiplayer. I looked up in the About Civ II and I got all the credits but no further info. It is a Mac version, but that should be no problem, right????

                    So, I used the browse button on the reply screen and saved it from my disc. Is there another way?

                    Please help.
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                    are you playing a MAC version on a PC

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                    • Good turns, SG [1]

                      Looks like LaFayette is up!

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                      • Re: Rabid Aggressive Rodent takes the helm

                        Originally posted by Scouse Gits
                        1750 = 50 CF Vikings; 6 cities - 6 settlers - guess who went last?
                        and then the SG's build twice as many cities, with yet 4 more settlers in production

                        do we have an SSC in mind? Madrid probably wouldn't have been my first guess as there are no visible specials and only 4 sea spaces (of course i haven't tried out the hut-finder program yet, so maybe they now something i don't?

                        wonder how many cities there'll be before it gets back around to me
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                        • Back on track

                          old play list; Shakespeare's Theatre makes all citizens content

                          Straybow
                          SCG
                          SG[1]
                          DaveV
                          STYOM
                          Lafayette
                          SG(2)
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                          • Re: Rabid Aggressive Rodent takes the helm

                            Originally posted by Scouse Gits
                            Nothin' Fancy Succession


                            Passing the baton (and the Gardens) SG[1] with (2)'s very able assistance
                            I noticed in your save that in four cities you used an ordinary ocean square when a fishie square was available. Why is this? Are you simply slowing the growth of these cities or is there something more subtle?

                            RJM at Sleepers (who is confused, but ready to learn)
                            Last edited by rjmatsleepers; April 13, 2003, 02:30.
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                            • Yes - desperate times call for desperate measures - in the absence of the Gardens happiness is a major issue and I felt it necessary to limit growth whilst maximising arrows (to get Pottery - which actually arrived one turn before I expected it) hence the use of ocean squares -- unorthodox, but useful in the short term. As it was the new cities were founded with a red face (all except, strangely, the last one to the East of Madrid which squeezed out the extra arrows to get Pottery).

                              Obviously, this strategy is sub-optimal in many ways, but these rather peculiar circumstances required it (IMHO of course)

                              Hope this helps, SG[1]
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