Imperialism 1870 v2.0 PBEM

[JamesJKirk]

revolutions are turned off, so you can only have one right when you get a tech

[Zedd]

Originally posted by JamesJKirk
Once again Germany repeats its request for the knowledge of Republic, we would also be greatful if someone could send that over via Civdip.

Originally posted by Zedd
A representative of France dispatched a private message to your office but recieved no reply. Please review your PM box

Posted by James Kirk
Oh, I accept your proposal, definitely

Posted by Zedd
James Kirk, i will prepare the civ dip file imediately

Oh well, you beat me too it.

[Zedd]

Originally posted by JamesJKirk
revolutions are turned off, so you can only have one right when you get a tech

I think that you will get the " do you wish to revolt?" window when you open up your next turn.

[conmcb25]

Do you guys want me to replay this real quick?

I didn't know you had a deal because honestly I was not paying that much attention.

If I dont hear anything in the next couple of hours then I will replay.

[germanos]

Originally posted by Zedd


I think that you will get the " do you wish to revolt?" window when you open up your next turn.

no, you will not.

con: Unless you want Germany stuck in Monarchy on purpose , you are kindly asked to replay your turn.

[conmcb25]

Originally posted by germanos



no, you will not.

con: Unless you want Germany stuck in Monarchy on purpose , you are kindly asked to replay your turn.

Ok Im not sure I understand but I will comply.

It was basically an impulse move last night on my part.

I will have the new turn up within a few hours.

[Zedd]

evidently the issue is the popup:

"You have just discovered (insert Gov type here).
Do you wish to revolt?"

Aparently, In this Scen. clicking yes at this popup is the only way to get a revolution and the box only pops up if you discover the tech DURRING your turn.
IE from research, hut popping, or as a trade or gift.

By using the civ 2 diplomacy screen the tech shows up in the german tech list durring YOUR turn so when JamesKirk opens the save the tech is allready there meaning He won't get the popup and thus will be stuck with the knowledge of republic but unable to incite a revolt.

90% of this is speculationby the way, but I did test it out and found enough evidence to support my hypothesis.

[germanos]

I can try to explain:

In a PBEM, essentially (this is what the game thinks) all of us are playing a Single Player game. The only difference being that we all play a SP with a different civ, and its not the game that moves our opponents, but that its the other people playing a SP. The game-engine is not aware of this however, hence all the ****-ups that happen, and for which we have LazyCiv and other great utilities.

In this game, goverment switching is not allowed (it is not even possible) EXEPT when a civ gets a tech that enables a new Government. IT IS ONLY AT THAT EXACT MOMENT that a civ can choose to revolt.

When you give The Republic to Germany, you are not giving it to JamesJKirk, but you give it to the AI. The AI probably does not want to become a republic (unless you(=conmcb25) got the message 'The Germans are revolting'), and thus Germany will stay a Monarchy. When James arrives at the buttons, the window of opportunaty has passed, and there will be no chance to revolt untill he discovers democracy or communism.



To Zedd: there is no need to speculate: i have seen games where people where not able to switch to Republic while they had been given the tech

[conmcb25]

OK I get it

Its a quirk of this particular scenario that is of course a quirck because of the CIV II code.

OK I get.

And to think I was just trying to be a nice guy

Im still going to get this played in the next few hours.


Im scanning with some new Anti-Spyware software right now and after that Ill get the new file up.

jamesjkirk

DO NOT PLAY THE FILE YOU D/L'ed LAST NIGHT!!!!!

[conmcb25]

OK Spyware Free and the new save:

There was something about a "No Confidence vote for napolean the Third, not sure what that menas in game terms.


Some movement of "natives" but no pop ups with announcements about them this turn.

[Zedd]

There was something about a "No Confidence vote for napolean the Third, not sure what that menas in game terms.

Perhaps I will see some discontent in my cities?

[Pablostuka]

Originally posted by JamesJKirk
Oh, I accept your proposal, definitely. Sorry I forgot. But more immediately, I don't know. I haven't seen Darius online in a long time. Anyone know his email address?

I don't know if that will help, but Darius left the PBEM community at CDG due to being caught cheating twice in some 2194 games. I don't know if he's still playing here at Poly or at CFC.

I think conmcb25 knows about this issue.

[Zedd]

Was there good evidence for those cases, becouse it is a little odd for the person who started the "Cheater Registry" to be cought cheeting. !?!

ANYway thats OT and Darius isn't here to defend so lets just keep the game going. If there is no sign of him on his next turn we could try to find a sub.

[Pablostuka]

@Zedd: Please check your PM inbox.

[Zedd]

On cdgroup.org Darius wrote:
Actually, I'm leaving all my games, and won't lose sleep over it. All the suspicion and scrutiny I'll be subject to because of petty little things like this would prevent them from being fun. Have a nice life.

Thanks Pablostuka for the links. I think this and the subseqent absence of Darius is enough to justify posting for a replacement

Problem is does anyone know his password?