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  • #91
    "Catherine, here is more from France"

    "These French and their self-confidence bigger than their kingdom. Bigger even than their arrogance and their fibs. Even bigger than their ambitions of world importance!

    So the French are doubting my good will in ending this war and are wondering how could one want to stop his friend if he sees he is doing wrong? Maybe because they are so biased, they care only for who is with them and who is against them and cant see clearly what is wrong and what is right? Well, this is not the case with us. We can see when something is not right and even committed by our close friend, we can speak up and undo the injustice.

    If we were so biased and wanted the Turks to conquer North America, what would have stopped us from sending 50 of our own rifles there, just to ensure the side we support will win, not that the Turks are not winning anyway, but just to imagine? Just as the French did?

    See the difference, Boris - the French pretend they want peace, but they sell weapons to keep the conflict burning and lie the hopes of the North Americans. Sad story.. We all have seen it in Israel. Their good friends the French fed them with their modern weapons and then cowardly left them to bear the consequences of their French-forged stubbornness and over-confidence. The same thing happened with India. Neandor pumped up their self-confidence so they made enemies by their close neighbors and even with us, Boris. And then when India needed protection, Neandor is no where to be found of course. Despite India betrayed our NAP, still we are those who try and negotiate to stop the war in the Pacific. Hows that with France?

    And I would be very sad and disappointed to see all this history repeats in North America.

    This guy Marc may be an excellent governor for France, but he is not that good as a diplomat."

    "Catherine, be condescending to him. As you agreed with the French, the war is just a tool in the arsenal of the diplomacy" Boris smiled slightly. "And his tool just isnt big enough for you." Catherine and Boris laughed out loud.
    Last edited by Russia (DoE); July 13, 2011, 02:08.

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    • #92
      Official communiqué of the keeper of the throne of Mali:

      Mali is certain that the Aztecs had plans to attack the mother of mankind Africa.
      Mali thanked his neighbor and ally for preventive protection. Mali thinks Aztecs should be punished for their aggressive plans. Turkey must maintain at least the Caribbean as a guarantee against further aggressive plans of the Aztecs or anyone else in this region against Africa.
      Mali responsible in the following way of France: the new king Louis obviously has bad advisers, who give him bad advice. According to Mali is quite meaningless France to pay spies to work in the territory of Mali (and are supposedly friendly nations) simply because France was asked about the army of Mali, and we would respond after "Mali's army is responsible for defend the territory of Mali and no one can "advise" where it Stationing, it is currently in place because the interior normal maneuvers and not threatening anyone. Mali does not understand how France, which claims to be a friend of Mali supports the nation (Aztec) that wants to attack Mali. We urge king Louis to listen to reason and not to escalate tensions. Mali wants to have normal good neighborly relations with France.

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      • #93
        Aysecan,

        it seems that your sultan has finally seen the wisdom of signing peace.

        But there can only be peace if the cities Havana and Miami of our American friends are transfered immediately and without further discussion.
        Since your act of aggression has done them much wrong.

        Before you have tricked the Americans in a peace treaty without actually giving their cites back. This will not happen again.

        Therefore my lawyers have designed the following document.
        After that, this exact document has been checked by various law firms from across the world.

        We are sure this wording is binding.

        Find attached the precise wording of the peace treaty.



        Accept this peace treaty and then the war is over.
        We will make sure Havana and Miami are transferred back to our allies the Americans.

        Camaxtli
        Last edited by Aztecs (DoE); July 13, 2011, 09:33.

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        • #94
          "Sire, good news it seems that the Ottomans are retreating"

          "It looks like it, but let's wait what happens,
          they have signed peace before with the Americans and did not honour their agreement after that.

          They try to stall and wait, wait and stall, chit chat about this and that ..

          This will not happen to us. As long as they do not transfer the cities of the Azteca and the Americans there will be no peace."

          "Aaah that is why you were talking to these lawyers... "

          "Yes, sadly it is needed to talk with these bloodhounds when dealing with the Ottomans.
          Let's hope they got it right.."

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          • #95
            Friendly notice to the Azteca government

            Dear Aztecs,

            When it was time for you to negotiate for peace, you clearly failed to set a peace, looking to involve more and more countries in the conflict and complicate it beyond repair. Now when Russia took the initiative and because of it position you finally have the chance to get your cities back and be spared the horrors of the war anymore, you will not unnecessary complicate the peace, nor put additional demands once you saw the Ottomans agreeing to make peace as Russia demanded.

            The Americans, as I understood have already negotiated the peace and NAP with the Turks, so I strongly suggest you to act sensibly and not try to put dent in the peace process with something, which is not of your immediate concerns.

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            • #96
              Friendly reply to the Russian government

              You must have been mistaken, sirs, as there are absolutely no additional demands on the table.

              The Ottomans agreed with the Americans to return both Miami and Havana.
              Furthermore they are offering to return Texcoco to us.

              We are simply making sure these terms are met.

              We just don't want to end up, just like the Americans,
              with a signed peace treaty and without the return of the territory to go with it.

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              • #97
                I still have to hear from the Ottomans and the Americans and they to present to me what are their agreements, but here, when Russia is mediating, there is not need for mediator of the negotiator. Russia's negotiating is enough of guarantee that what is agreed between the parties will be fulfilled.

                I wait to hear that you and the Ottomans signed the 50-turn NAP and they have returned your cities.

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                • #98
                  I can only say that the only thing the Aztecs want is return of the territorial integrity of both America and Azteca.

                  If this treaty is signed we will return to the situation as it was before the Ottoman invasion.

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                  • #99
                    Last offer to Japan

                    Consider the following: What exactly is Agra worth to you?

                    Here is what it is worth to us. India has 6 cities, with Lahore on Tasmania and Agra on Java we have 8. 8 cities is the required number to build national wonders such as Oxford university, Great Theatre and some others. India can not accept a situation where we have less than 8 cities. As such we are willing to spend anything it takes to regain our city.

                    We know that your arrogance has convinced you of certain victory in this war, but you underestimated India which cost you your blockade fleet, and you continue to underestimate both our resolve as well as our capacity. When you attacked us we had no fleet. We now have a considerable navy that grows larger by the day. India does not wish to exhaust both our nations in this war especially since we have tried for centuries to make our two nations work together for both our common good. Yet instead you chose foolishly to attack us thinking that we would fall easily. Yet your cruelty has galvanized India. We are now determinedly united to win this war, and we know well that we can. Yet we offer you once more an honorable and uncostly way out of this. Take the deal we offered you, or prepare to be surprised by India a second time.

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                    • Public Response to Azteca

                      First, we reject your proposal.

                      Additionally, We have already offered a NAP to you and a peaceful return of your city. When you delayed in accepting this, we accepted the Russian drafted public decree and NAP, which was a mirror of the private NAP sent by another nation. We shall not disclose the name of the sender as it was sent privately, but Azteca was among the recipients.

                      We deny that we have "tricked" the Americans in any way. Our current peace treaty with America was in exchange for withdrawing from Washington, not in exchange for Miami. Again, our terms with America were supposed to be private, but as you well know, the terms with both nations call for NAPs to be signed, prior to cities being returned. Azteca is well aware of this.

                      There is no stalling or deception here on our part. Turkey has stated clearly our intention to return Miami and Texcoco, and we have withdrawn all troops. It is preposterous that we would leave both cities freely open to capture if we did not intend to return them. We have also stated clearly to America our terms for returning Havana. America has tentatively agreed to our proposal, but is holding off on final approval in deference to the stalling of Azteca.

                      In other words, Americans would already have Miami and Havana, but Azteca won't let them fulfill the terms because Azteca does not wish to sign the NAP. The reason Azteca will not sign the NAP is obvious. Azteca still wishes to invade Africa and does not want to sign a NAP that prevents them from doing so.

                      So there is no further confusion. Turkey has signed the NAP decreed by Russia. America has not authorized Azteca to negotiate or act as mediator on their behalf, nor have they authorized Turkey to turn over Miami or Havana to Azteca. Nor have they signed either the long term NAP offered by Turkey. Nor have they signed the long term NAP decreed by Russia.

                      Havana is a separate issue and we will not allow it to be conflated into the issue of the long term NAP with America or Azteca. There will be no package deal for Havana as it presents a security concern for Africa as we have already explained. There are separate terms for Havana, And Havana can not be returned unless America either meets the terms we have specified, or negotiates different terms. America is aware of our terms, Azteca can not negotiate for Havana.

                      Therefore if Azteca wishes refuse to sign the NAP as it appears, obviously to retain their freedom to invade Africa, then we must remain vigilantly watchful over Azteca and Havana is of utmost strategic importance, creating all the more reason for the terms we gave America do Havana. We do not want Texcoco, and we never wanted Texcoco. We only captured Texcoco to decimate your African invasion fleet.

                      If Azteca is still determined to attack Africa, and thus does not wish to sign the NAP with Turkey, then Texcoco is free and empty to be recaptured. We only offered peaceful handover as an accommodation to Azteca to avoid further damage to the city. If Aztecs don't want peace, the city is empty of Turkish soldiers, go ahead and take it back. As for Miami, it is also empty, and Azteca could capture it as well, but thus only hurts America, as we don't want Miami either. We are returning Miami as soon as the NAP is signed.

                      If Azteca does decide to capture Miami, remember that rules of War forbid you from gifting it to America as long as you are at war with ANY nation.

                      Taner, on behalf of the Sultan
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                      • Again the Ottomans hide behind a wall of words. Our intention is very clear and very simple:

                        the only thing the Aztecs want is return of the territorial integrity of both America and Azteca.

                        If this treaty is signed we will return to the situation as it was before the Ottoman invasion.


                        This is a just cause.

                        Let us add that we have no intention at all to invade any states in Africa.

                        Furthermore: at the Russian ambassador: a negotiator negotiatiates, and does not decree solutions.
                        If you try us you will find that we'll listen to reasonable solutions.

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                        • Clarification on the Impasse in Peace Talks

                          The Sultan directs me to make the following points of agreement:

                          1. America accepts the NAP proposed by Turkey, provided that Azteca also accepts
                          2. Azteca rejects the NAP proposed by Turkey
                          3. America accepts the NAP decreed by Russia, provided that Azteca also accepts
                          4. Turkey accepts the NAP decreed by Russia
                          5. Azteca rejects the NAP decreed by Russia
                          6. Turkey rejects Azteca as a representative of Americans and therefore rejects any and all proposals by Azteca that involve Havana
                          7. Turkish forces have completely left Miami and Texcoco

                          The Sultan submits that all the above are true, and invites comments and suggestions that do not repeat or contradict the above true statements.

                          Taner on behalf of Sultan Ahmed V
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                          • Eisenhower entered the room. A large room, with a large wooden table. Everyone stood up, some approached him to shake hands. He felt weary, tired, spent. He shook a hand, and it seemed to take place in slow motion. On his sleeve, he saw a few red specks. Specks of blood, where the soldier's arm had touched him, as he held his hand. He vividly remembered the hope in the young man's eyes. But just as vividly, he remembered that as he looked at the doctor standing behind the soldier, the doctor slowly shook his head.

                            The hospitals were full of young men. Some would survive. But little did they know that the moment they had set out to fight for their country, they already lost one battle. They would forever be scarred, no matter the outcome. They had seen their best friends die, witnessed the horror and atrocity of the battlefield. Any shred of innocence that man manages to preserve from childhood, is blasted out of him the moment bullets fly past his head, ripping holes into the flesh of the friends beside him.

                            And now, he realized that all of this had happened over a supposed plan to invade Africa. His country, his men, his brothers, massacred over a hunch. Had the Turks but asked us, warned us, attempt to talk with us. But no diplomatic efforts were made. And to make matters worse, the invader now demands to keep American territory, Havana, as a protection against any future invasion plans. To top it all off, America has to transfer military assets to the invader and agree to a non-aggression pact with no less than 9 nations. Outrageous, considering America has never even been aggressive.

                            He realized he was still staring at the blood, holding the hand of a representative of Congress, who had grabbed his elbow and was asking if he was alright. He let go of the hand, and looked at the worried faces around him. He nodded, and motioned to the table. When everybody was seated, he walked to the head of the table. An expectant hush quickly replaced the scuffling of the chairs.

                            "Gentlemen. Throughout the past few days, we have come to know each other better than ever before. Times like these force men to set aside petty differences, and to work as one. Through all the clutter, we have managed to keep each other focused, we separated logic from chaos, and distilled reason from madness.

                            However, it seems that other nations have failed at these very same efforts. We are said to have accepted peace, because we agreed with Ottoman terms. Some believe we are stalling for time. Some even accuse us of plotting against them. Chaos, I say. And madness.

                            The Native Americans want peace. The Russians want peace. We too have never wanted anything but peace. But we have been brutally invaded without ever antagonizing any nation on this earth. Such aggression is unacceptable, and should be unacceptable to every other nation in this world.

                            I address you now today, to clarify for all of us, and so to clarify for all the world, the one and only peace treaty that America will accept.

                            America must have all its territory returned; Havana and Miami are American cities. Any suggestion that Havana could be used to launch an attack on Africa is not only insulting, but simply outrageous: American soil will never be used as a launching base for an unprovoked attack. Of all nations, we now know exactly how terribly such passive participation can turn out.

                            The Aztecs must have all their territory returned. The fact that the Turks now rage on into our neighbor's lands is shocking; all the Aztecs did was protect their American brothers.

                            America will not hand over any military assets to the Ottoman Empire. The mere suggestion that the aggressor will receive anything militarily from America is rather insolent; we have witnessed firsthand what the Otttoman Empire can do with military means, and we do not wish that on anybody.

                            Furthermore, any Non-Aggression pact will only be signed after the return of all Azteca and American territory and the full evacuation of Turkish forces or any of its allies from the American continent.

                            As I said before, it is times like these that force men to set aside petty differences, and to work as one. Now, I believe, that time has come for the world. Only a few facts matter in this war: there was a violent attack on a peaceful nation. Land was taken and men were not killed, but murdered.

                            I say to Russia, to the Native Americans; if you so desire peace, surely you must realize that the aggression we have witnessed should be condemned? Surely you must realize that you have the opportunity to use this as an example of what you yourself claim to be wrong? I wish no military action from either of you; all I wish is that you publicly condemn the attacks, and recognize the right to have our terms fulfilled.

                            Gentlemen, I leave you now. There are many Americans in need of hope. The farmer needs to look at his burnt fields, and see a future filled with harvests. Soldiers need to look at the graves of their fallen comrades, and look for the meaning behind it all. Families need to look at their destroyed homes, and dream of laughter, a meal and love. Right now, we are one of the few people who have a chance of giving some of these people hope, by a simple pat on the back, by helping them clear some rubble, or sometimes just by holding them, if only for a moment...
                            So I go, and do what I can."

                            Eisenhower sighed. The room was completely silent. He looked at his sleeve again, at the drops of blood. He turned around to the door, and walked out of the room.


                            Everyone seated was looking at each other, as the words sank in. They knew what had to be done.
                            They all got up, and followed Dwight. To wherever he was going.
                            Last edited by America (DoE); July 13, 2011, 19:07.
                            So I go, and do what I can ~ Dwight 'Diplo' Eisenhower

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                            • -------------------------TELEGRAM FROM CONGRESS TO ALL NATIONS--------------

                              Important news has reached Eisenhower. Official statement to follow shortly.

                              -----------------------END TELEGRAM-------------------------------
                              Last edited by America (DoE); July 13, 2011, 18:57.
                              So I go, and do what I can ~ Dwight 'Diplo' Eisenhower

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                              • Shocking evidence

                                While Ottoman diplomats tell us the following:

                                There is no stalling or deception here on our part. Turkey has stated clearly our intention to return Miami and Texcoco, and we have withdrawn all troops. It is preposterous that we would leave both cities freely open to capture if we did not intend to return them.
                                Aztec citizens have, with great danger to their own life, brought before us shocking evidence that there are still Ottoman troops in Texcoco.



                                These troops have been identified as Riflemen Infantry of the Ottoman army.

                                We can conclude nothing else than the Ottomans still want to continue this war.
                                Shipping from foreign nations can easily verify our claim.

                                Therefore prince Xochipilli has ordered the immediate liberation of Miami.

                                Before he ordered this he checked carefully with his American allies that the citizens of Miami really wanted to be liberated.

                                An American officer, in his pre-war life a college teacher in math, told us the following:
                                "The city is 99 % American, 1% Aztec and 0% Ottoman, what do you think? Of course we want to be liberated!!!
                                Last edited by Aztecs (DoE); July 13, 2011, 18:57.

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