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No one buys software for the DS or PSP?
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Clearly the portable numbers aren't available.
What's amazing is the difference in software..."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Originally posted by Kuciwalker
No one buys software for the DS or PSP?
dunno, but look in the small print - top 15 titles. If a platform has lots of smaller titles, but few AAA titles, it will look small there (assuming that is top 15 for each platform)"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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Assuming 75% of Wii owners have bought Wii Play, and give it create for one fifth of those sales (since the Wiimote is available seperate for 80% of the price), take away .6 or so from the Wii attach rate. That would give you 3.25. Not stellar (correct?), not like the 360, but is it really that disappointing for Nintendo?Originally posted by Asher
Note that Wii's tie ratio IS including Wii Play, still..."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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I would assume that looking at the entire list (which is not available, thus the "fine print"), the 360 would win on the obvious basis of a larger software library, more consoles installed, a userbase that is known for buying more games, and the simple fact that there are far more "worthy" Xbox 360 games than Wii games...just a thought.Originally posted by lord of the mark
dunno, but look in the small print - top 15 titles. If a platform has lots of smaller titles, but few AAA titles, it will look small there (assuming that is top 15 for each platform)
The main thing to get from that graph isn't just the raw numbers (in which MS wins), it's the health of the software ecosystem. Looking at that graph, it should be clear to everyone (including people who don't know much about the market) which system is healthier in terms of software.
Looking at those kinds of stats -- as publishers do -- which platform is most enticing?"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Yes, 3.25 is very, very low.Originally posted by lord of the mark
Assuming 75% of Wii owners have bought Wii Play, and give it create for one fifth of those sales (since the Wiimote is available seperate for 80% of the price), take away .6 or so from the Wii attach rate. That would give you 3.25. Not stellar (correct?), not like the 360, but is it really that disappointing for Nintendo?"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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I didn't realize the PS3 and Wii were doing that badly.
A lot of people have said they'd like to see Nintendo go the away of SEGA by focusing solely on software. I think this might be a good idea. IMO, they should have stopped at the GameCube, or possibly N64. Not so much from a business sense, but from a gamers perspective. They've got a number of great franchises, but unfortunately it seems their actual console restricts what they could do with the game. So many GameCube/Wii games would have benefited greatly from the online functionality MS has pushed, or 360-level graphics. (I'd have much rather played a 360 version. The Wii controls provided nothing.Comment
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Why?Originally posted by Verto
A lot of people have said they'd like to see Nintendo go the away of SEGA by focusing solely on software. I think this might be a good idea.
Given teh gross profit headstart given by teh HW, and teh fact that most of their attach is driven by 1P SW (with correspondingly higher revenue per game), they're doing quite well financially - the equivalent of selling teh HW at break-even with a 3P attach of ~10.THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
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The 360 is the PS2 of this generation. The Wii is a bit of an anomaly as all kinds of weird people are buying Wii hardware, but the fact that software sales remain quite low illustrate that in terms of it being a game-playing device, it remains a distant 2nd.Originally posted by Verto
I didn't realize the PS3 and Wii were doing that badly.
A lot of people have said they'd like to see Nintendo go the away of SEGA by focusing solely on software. I think this might be a good idea. IMO, they should have stopped at the GameCube, or possibly N64. Not so much from a business sense, but from a gamers perspective. They've got a number of great franchises, but unfortunately it seems their actual console restricts what they could do with the game. So many GameCube/Wii games would have benefited greatly from the online functionality MS has pushed, or 360-level graphics. (I'd have much rather played a 360 version. The Wii controls provided nothing."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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I already said "Not so much from a business sense, but from a gamers perspective."Originally posted by LordShiva
Why?
Given teh gross profit headstart given by teh HW, and teh fact that most of their attach is driven by 1P SW (with correspondingly higher revenue per game), they're doing quite well financially - the equivalent of selling teh HW at break-even with a 3P attach of ~10.Comment
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Indeed you did.
Nintendo are causing me a bit a dilemma - I don't want to miss out on SMG and a couple of others, but there's no strength in depth and I'm too tight to buy the console just for them.
But it's going to be a decent wait till the next console, and they might decide to ditch BC and start afresh.Comment
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Verto how are you liking Crackdown, I just picked it up today.Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try. -HomerComment
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I have it - it's pretty weak in my view.Comment
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