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  • Just waiting on Y City.
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    • Sorry about the delay, running it now.

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      • Damn, I thought CO demand was just leveling off, it tanked despite all I could do (convention center, international airport, 5.5% taxes) and I have 3 empty high-rises.

        Oddly enough, while I was bleeding CO jobs, the average income of my sims hit almost 70K

        Ending stats:
        R:139,827
        C:30,954
        I:6,290

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        • Only 3? I've got at least a dozen.
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          There are reasons why I believe mankind should live in cities and let nature reclaim all the villages with the exception of a few we keep on display as horrific reminders of rural life.-Starchild
          Meat eating and the dominance and force projected over animals that is acompanies it is a gateway or parallel to other prejudiced beliefs such as classism, misogyny, and even racism. -General Ludd

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          • City Statistics 2035

            Green=Highest in Region
            Red=Lowest in Region

            Epwood
            EPW
            Pop: 156,980(+23.6%)
            Com. Jobs: 73,977(+.9%)
            Ind. Jobs: 13,431(+6.67%)

            El Dorado-2020
            mrmitchell
            Pop: 41,047
            Com. Jobs: 12,426
            Ind. Jobs: 8,522

            Y City
            Atragon
            Pop: 139,827(+12.4%)
            Com. Jobs: 30,954(-18.44%)
            Ind. Jobs: 6,290(-8.8%)

            Mergdale-2025
            General Ludd
            Pop: 42,440
            Com. Jobs: 7,689
            Ind. Jobs: 520

            Blountburg
            Jonny
            Pop: 97,832(+41.77%)
            Com. Jobs: 23,843(+8.87%)
            Ind. Jobs: 18,864(+12.65%)

            East Central
            Smiley
            Pop: 73,122(+9.39%)
            Com. Jobs: 15,381(+1.52%)
            Ind. Jobs: 1,924(+7.96%)

            Fray Bentos
            Maquilidora
            Pop: 4,277(-.41%)
            Com. Jobs: 9,561(-11%)
            Ind. Jobs: 10,187(+44.7%)

            Bubble Junction
            Lemmy
            Pop: 55,469(+19%)
            Com. Jobs: 58,518(-2%)
            Ind. Jobs: 2,628((-23.4%)

            Fairfield
            Vovan
            Pop: 40,691(+90.1%)
            Com. Jobs: 3,122(+30%)
            Ind. Jobs: 8,544(+9.9%)

            Trinity Islands
            General Ludd
            Pop: 18,179(+71.8%)
            Com. Jobs: 2,951(+80%)
            Ind. Jobs: 5,842(+51.3%)
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            • You know you are addicted to SimCity when you come home after doing urban planning at work all day and first thing ya do is play SimCity.
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              There are reasons why I believe mankind should live in cities and let nature reclaim all the villages with the exception of a few we keep on display as horrific reminders of rural life.-Starchild
              Meat eating and the dominance and force projected over animals that is acompanies it is a gateway or parallel to other prejudiced beliefs such as classism, misogyny, and even racism. -General Ludd

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              • Buy Local - Building East Central's Downtown
                East Central 2040


                The boom-bust speculative cycle swung the other way this time, as a glut of high wealth residents caused a huge demand for office jobs.

                Due to the city's low number of high wealth residents, the effect of the bust was minimal.

                The office boom, on the other hand, needed to be kept in control to avoid a repeat of the Crash of 2035. Taxes were raised on Class A office space to over 10%, keeping existing businesses in town but stopping new ones from moving in.

                Problem solved? Not entirely. While office demand instead went towards middle class offices, there still were lots of the rich who liked to patronize hipster clubs and art galleries in East Central. So, taxes were also hiked on high wealth commercial services to over 11% before demand subsided.

                Now, land became available for offering the mostly lower and middle class residents jobs in town. New shops opened in many redeveloped lots across town, including formerly sleepy Carrot Heights.
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                There are reasons why I believe mankind should live in cities and let nature reclaim all the villages with the exception of a few we keep on display as horrific reminders of rural life.-Starchild
                Meat eating and the dominance and force projected over animals that is acompanies it is a gateway or parallel to other prejudiced beliefs such as classism, misogyny, and even racism. -General Ludd

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                • To house displaced residents from downtown rezoning, a new satellite city, Bereka, was built. More rail lines were laid, including a second line to Bubble Junction.

                  Planners underestimated the popularity of East Central's generous social services - another 5,000 new low-income residents moved in, further worsening the low income job shortage.

                  Middle income jobs seem to be satisfied for the most part... perhaps taxes will go up on Office $$ and Services $$ in the next Five Year Plan as well.

                  Download East Central 2040


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                  East Central 2045 Five Year Plan - Solve the low-income job shortage
                  -Expand agriculture
                  -Convert small tenements into retail areas
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                  There are reasons why I believe mankind should live in cities and let nature reclaim all the villages with the exception of a few we keep on display as horrific reminders of rural life.-Starchild
                  Meat eating and the dominance and force projected over animals that is acompanies it is a gateway or parallel to other prejudiced beliefs such as classism, misogyny, and even racism. -General Ludd

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                  • Originally posted by Smiley
                    You know you are addicted to SimCity when you come home after doing urban planning at work all day and first thing ya do is play SimCity.
                    So, is it realistic, Smiley?
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                    I like your SNOOPY POSTER! - While you Wait quote.

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                    • Regional Transportation Planning


                      Every morning, the city of East Central awakes with the sound of the 5 am whistle, heard throughout the city's 20-plus railroad stations as tens of thousands of janitors, hot dog vendors, assembly line workers and gofers board trains for jobs in shopping malls in Bubble Junction, chemical plants in Fairfield, and the famous Blount Works.

                      For others, the end of the line is only the start of journey, as they disembark at the Y Terminal. Jobs used to be plentiful in Y City, nowadays, however, it's another ride across the river to boomtown Epwood.
                      -East Central Daily News


                      Looks like the east and west sides of town have taken different approaches to transportation planning.

                      On the east side, we have an extensive rail system, with subways, rails, and elevated lines.

                      On the west side, we've got highways and wide avenues. In between is a stretch of no-man's-land between Bubble Junction and Y City, plus one seriously clogged road through Mergdale.

                      How about a subway connection?
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                      There are reasons why I believe mankind should live in cities and let nature reclaim all the villages with the exception of a few we keep on display as horrific reminders of rural life.-Starchild
                      Meat eating and the dominance and force projected over animals that is acompanies it is a gateway or parallel to other prejudiced beliefs such as classism, misogyny, and even racism. -General Ludd

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                      • Originally posted by snoopy369
                        So, is it realistic, Smiley?
                        This newest version gets some things right with some glaring ommissions:

                        Good
                        (Reasonably accurate)
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                        -Commericial development likes being located in areas with heavy traffic.
                        -Residents hate traffic noise.
                        -Trees clean the air.
                        -The area effects of the reward buildings are modelled nicely, for example, cheap housing gets built around universities.

                        Bad
                        (minor or correctable problem)
                        ----------------------------
                        -No mixed use zoning, such as apartments over retail.
                        -Electricity and water are free services? I'd like to move there...
                        -Commercial density is low, this is linked with the lack of mixed use.

                        Ugly
                        (allows for unrealistic cities)
                        ----------------------------
                        -Parking is not considered, buildings apparently have bottomless underground garages.
                        -All jobs / residents in a building are of same income level.
                        -Pollution doesn't cross borders, and hardly travels anywhere within city limits either.

                        Unknown
                        (Needs more data research)
                        ----------------------------
                        -Health modelling - are sims that walk healthier?
                        -Conections between education and crime

                        next up, city evaluations.
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                        There are reasons why I believe mankind should live in cities and let nature reclaim all the villages with the exception of a few we keep on display as horrific reminders of rural life.-Starchild
                        Meat eating and the dominance and force projected over animals that is acompanies it is a gateway or parallel to other prejudiced beliefs such as classism, misogyny, and even racism. -General Ludd

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                        • City Evaluations of Realism in the SimCity 4 game model

                          Fray Bentos
                          I wouldn't call this good city planning but I've seen lots of cities like this in suburban America - a downtown along a main corridor, lots of houses, and in this case, literally islands of shopping centers and industrial parks accessible only by car. A real waste of waterfront if you ask me.

                          Fairfield
                          There's plenty of irony in the name - former factory sites aren't just any old piece of land, they are brownfields that need pollution cleanup. This type of environmental remediation is possible but the cost is not reflected in the game.
                          The city is as a whole realistic, it reminds me of Emeryville, a former industrial city across the bay from San Francisco, which has recently built lots of yuppie housing. Under the right wind conditions, factories near apartments is OK.

                          Epwood
                          It's unusual that highrise housing and shopping would be this seperated in a real city, where the main attraction of downtown living is proximity to restaurants and shopping. Presumably, such buildings would have a few businesses on lower floors.
                          The implementation of the subway system is very accurate, a large city with such a high degree of zone seperation could not function without extensive transit.
                          oh, and that airport runway facing the power plant stack-


                          more to come...
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                          There are reasons why I believe mankind should live in cities and let nature reclaim all the villages with the exception of a few we keep on display as horrific reminders of rural life.-Starchild
                          Meat eating and the dominance and force projected over animals that is acompanies it is a gateway or parallel to other prejudiced beliefs such as classism, misogyny, and even racism. -General Ludd

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                          • I have unleashed a beast ... Good to hear it's at least moderately realistic.
                            <Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.
                            I like your SNOOPY POSTER! - While you Wait quote.

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                            • Originally posted by Smiley

                              oh, and that airport runway facing the power plant stack-


                              more to come...
                              Only the best pilots can land in Epwood
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                              • Trinity Islands
                                Generally, offshore islands linked only by boat are sparsely populated, cases in point Angel Island near San Francisco or the numerous islands in Hong Kong Harbor.

                                Industry would be very unlikely to move in, though farming is possible and tourism would be big. Also, bridges ought to be much more expensive to build.

                                Bubble Junction
                                The consolidation of office space in large office parks is quite common, in reality, however, you'd need lots and lots of parking space.

                                The different use, different cluster, model is often abused in city plans in China and other developing countries. Even in these cases it is rare to see such a high degree of zone seperation between residential and commercial.

                                Finally, intensive commercial development generally lines major roads, instead of spreading out into districts. In reality, there'd be a skyscraper-lined road with huge amounts of parking behind, much like Shiekh Zayed Road in Dubai.

                                Blountberg
                                The commercial corridors radiating from a mixed downtown is quite accurate, right down to the housing projects. Here's one point of objection- housing projects are built by cities, not private developers, and private low income housing is generally old middle income or high income housing.

                                The city's "concentric ring" layout is quite common, but there's a major difference: scale. At least in American cities, the mid-density and low-density residential rings would be far larger.

                                East Central
                                East Central was planned using a mix of no-use-zoning Taiwanese development and "Transit Village" planning.
                                The downtown is built Taiwanese style as a mishmash of uses, with adjustments made over time to fit demand. Here the game is inaccurate in making rezoning cost money - initial costs reflect the cost of hooking up utilities, street improvements, etc., changing from residential to commercial use should not require demolition or any high costs.
                                The satellite cities are built with the Transit Village plan, where housing surrounds a station and neighborhood retail. City services are also neighborhood based. This does work as intended, though in reality such a setup would require very good transit at the other end of the line as well.
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                                There are reasons why I believe mankind should live in cities and let nature reclaim all the villages with the exception of a few we keep on display as horrific reminders of rural life.-Starchild
                                Meat eating and the dominance and force projected over animals that is acompanies it is a gateway or parallel to other prejudiced beliefs such as classism, misogyny, and even racism. -General Ludd

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