Pro-Life Activist Gunned Down in Michigan

[Wezil]

You have the link to the source right there. Why not quote the actual source? Mindnumbing.

Ben, if I smacked you in the face with the original text it would still be insufficient. You are blissfully stupid.

[BlackCat]

There is no such thing as a big sin. But murdering a person does not some from the clear sky, no person who has let Christ form his person, would murder someone.

Are you saying that all the persecution against other faiths, burning of witches etc, have been done by people not formed by cristianity ?

[Wezil]

Oh there you go. Bringing up the witch thing again!

[Nikolai]

Nikolai - I'm not a christian so I'm in no position to know but I have heard the phrase "We are all sinners" more than once. I was just wondering if there was a hierarchy whereby some sins would get you kicked out of the club.

All sins are of the same "size" for God. We humans of course make a hierarchy out of them, few people would set thievery or lying = murder. But in God's eyes they are just as bad. The Bible tells us that only one sin is unforgiveable, (and bear with me for not having the right English term here, so it's probably wrongly worded) mockery of the Holy Spirit. This sin is kind of woolen, but it is thought to mean that one who has been a true Christian turns away from God even though he in his heart knows God to be true. Complicated stuff, and so rare that the general rule of all sins being forgiveable applies well enough.

[Ben Kenobi]

Ben, if I smacked you in the face with the original text it would still be insufficient. You are blissfully stupid.

They could have put it in blinking red and blue lights. Seriously, that annoys me. Look, I can edit wikipedia so it no longer matches up with your quote. This is a major problem with quoting wikipedia.

[David Floyd]

Nikolai, according to the Catholic Church, you're wrong. Mortal vs. venal sins, are, apparently, an important distinction.

Either that, or as usual, the Catholic Church is full of ****, and more of a cult than a religion. But who can say?

[BlackCat]

Oh there you go. Bringing up the witch thing again!

Sorry, but the alternative would be to draw the nazi card and that would kill the thread

[Nikolai]

Are you saying that all the persecution against other faiths, burning of witches etc, have been done by people not formed by cristianity ?

Not comparable. I would call them ignorant and quite possibly in many cases not true believers. But not as a general rule. Murder is wrong. Persecution is wrong. These people were formed by a worldly and corrupted Church, the Bible, the basis of Christianity, does not at all support any of this.

[Wezil]

This thread died a long time ago.

[Nikolai]

Nikolai, according to the Catholic Church, you're wrong. Mortal vs. venal sins, are, apparently, an important distinction.

Either that, or as usual, the Catholic Church is full of ****, and more of a cult than a religion. But who can say?

I dare say they can't back that up from the Bible.

[David Floyd]

I daresay you are right. But then again, they can't back up praying to Saint Peter or the Virgin Mary either, yet they do that as a matter of course.

For that matter, they can't really back up their proscription on using condoms, either.

[BlackCat]

Not comparable. I would call them ignorant and quite possibly in many cases not true believers. But not as a general rule. Murder is wrong. Persecution is wrong. These people were formed by a worldly and corrupted Church, the Bible, the basis of Christianity, does not at all support any of this.

That is your interpretation. For those people it was the true belief and they would consider themself quite enlightened. To be honest, I don't think that they saw themself as persecuting other people - they simply did was what god demanded - converting people or let them out of their misery.

[loinburger]

These people were formed by a worldly and corrupted Church, the Bible, the basis of Christianity, does not at all support any of this.

Except for e.g. not suffering a witch to live and so forth.

This thread died a long time ago.

Post #6

[David Floyd]

And let's not forget God-ordered genocide.

[Wezil]

They could have put it in blinking red and blue lights. Seriously, that annoys me. Look, I can edit wikipedia so it no longer matches up with your quote. This is a major problem with quoting wikipedia.

The wikipedia entry is an accurate summary of the decision, unlike your selective quoting and BS BenKenobi spin.