Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[Serb]

Dude...how many empires had the Roman empire destroyed when the upstart Ottomons came for them?

It's good to see that you consider Byzantium as the Roman Empire, but my point was that you Western upstart have already tried to kil us many times, but failed.

The collective West have a tradition once in a century get together to be ass raped at the end of the day by Russia.

You (USA) as the new leader of this collective West is nothing new and nothing special.
You will be ass raped at the end of the day, as well.

[Serb]

Pathetic :idiots:

[Serb]

Ukraine had thousands of tanks at February 2022, then you gave them thousands more.
They are all destroyed now, that's why Zelensky is begging for more.
And you, idiots, seriously talking about a dozens or hundreds Western tanks as a "wonder weapon"?
Wake-up,

[Serb]

A Western clowns. :facepalm:

[PLATO]

The US especially could send hundreds at low to nonexistent cost. Those thousands of surplus never to be used Abrams don't just sit in a dessert. They have annual inspection, scheduled elastomer change outs and other maintenance activities to keep them from decaying to unusable junk. That costs money. If the US sends 1000 Abrams it would just mean less maintenance expenses. The US would still have thousands of surplus Abrams to deal with.

The cost of keeping a production base operable for sure. It's not costless though...training, spare parts, and jet fuel to run them will cost a fair amount. Still...quite the bargain for one of the world's top tanks. It wouldn't surprise me to see the Abrams deployed around Kyiv and the Leos actually go to war. Would make logistics a lot easier.

[Geronimo]

The tanks the US doesn't ship to Ukraine will just end up in the gulf of Mexico as artificial reefs some day anyway.

[Geronimo]

The US especially could send hundreds at low to nonexistent cost. Those thousands of surplus never to be used Abrams don't just sit in a dessert. They have annual inspection, scheduled elastomer change outs and other maintenance activities to keep them from decaying to unusable junk. That costs money. If the US sends 1000 Abrams it would just mean less maintenance expenses. The US would still have thousands of surplus Abrams to deal with.

[BeBMan]

Lol They could have made this a lot easier.

From what's reported now other nations signalled they may chime in, not only Poland, which was always demanding this I also read about Spain, Norway, and Finland may send some of their Leos. US now saying they send Abrams, UK had already moved to send Challengers, France may also add their own Leclerc tanks.

It's not ideal to have so many different systems, and the numbers may not be huge, esp. initially, but let's hope they help Ukraine causing more regrouping.

[Dauphin]

Poland: "Germany is standing in the way of sending Leopards! We may send them anyway!"
Germany: "We will not stand in the way of other countries sending Leopards, but we haven't been asked!"
Poland: "Fine! Can we send them?"
Germany: "Give us a couple days to think about it."

WTF?

Known as German Sitzkrieg.

[PLATO]

'bout time

[BeBMan]

Tanks for Ukraine: Germany to send Leopard 2s and allow others to export - reports

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64391272

[PLATO]

Poland: "Germany is standing in the way of sending Leopards! We may send them anyway!"
Germany: "We will not stand in the way of other countries sending Leopards, but we haven't been asked!"
Poland: "Fine! Can we send them?"
Germany: "Give us a couple days to think about it."

WTF?

[dannubis]

European politicians who are so afraid of loosing elections that they don't do politics anymore and then loose elections...

[Geronimo]

The German government is saying nobody has requested consent per contractual agreement to send leopards to Ukraine and yet everybody else claims they are awaiting required permission to do so and Poland even claims that if permission is not granted soon it will export the leopards to Ukraine prior to obtaining the contractually required consent. Who is telling the truth? Is everybody bending the truth? Is the whole thing misdirection for the 'benefit' of the Russians? Something is fishy...

[BeBMan]

There are differences in the gov regarding the question of German tank deliveries. As far as I'm aware the issue of permitting others to send stuff pops up sometimes, but does not play nearly the same big role though.