Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[Serb]

You believe that crap about the US using bio-weapons in Vietnam?

The USSR was also accused of using biological weapons. Supposedly, the Soviet Union supplied biological weapons, mainly fungal toxins (Mycotoxins) to government forces, to kill dissident tribal people and enemy soldiers in Laos, Cambodia, and Afghanistan. It was claimed that the US had obtained good evidence that in addition to a traditional lethal chemical agent, three potent Mycotoxins had been used. The evidence came from the analysis of leaf and stem samples from Cambodia which revealed the use of high levels of mycotoxins. The levels detected were up to twenty times greater than any natural outbreak. Between 1979 and 1981 there were a lot more reports of incidents in which fungal toxins were being used against Laotians and Cambodian villagers.

Two major publications on mycotoxin weapons were issued by the US State Department in 1982. The first report referred to 261 separate attacks in Laos in which 6,504 deaths are alleged to have occurred and 124 attacks in Cambodia causing the death of some 981 persons. The second report issued by the US State Department alleged the use of mycotoxins and provided the results of analyses on blood and urine samples obtained from the victims. By analysis of two contaminated Soviet gas masks acquired from Afghanistan the evidence of mycotoxins use was confirmed. Casualties caused by mycotoxins use are not known in Afghanistan.

As for chemical weapons, according to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), this can be any chemical compound intended as a weapon or its precursor that can cause death, injury, temporary incapacitation or sensory irritation through its chemical action. Even by that broad definition agent orange was not a chemical weapon. It was a noxiously dangerous insidious substance, but its harm was incidental to its use not by any stretch the motive or primary effect of its use. . Not generally how weapons are used eh?

Agent Orange is the Chemical weapon!
There are generations of handicaped childs born due YOU using Agent Orange on their parents.
You left a deadly trace in Vietnam, even after you leaft.

Question for you Serb. Would the truth or falseness of any of these bioweapon or chemical weapon accusations (none of which are confirmed) have any relevance to the defensibility of a massive special operation against Ukraine?

It's Ukranians who are using chemical weapons, not us.

https://tass.com/politics/1571701

The US military routinely exposed its own personal as much Agent orange as they did "the enemy"

Oh, Yeah!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%E1%BB%B9_Lai_massacre

YOUR MOTHERF+CKERS have slaughterred about 500 civilians, including elders, women, children and BABIES and the punishment for that was a three years long house arrest for a single persone!


You are a fkn murderes and Nazis!


Keep spreading your lies for all you care!!!

You are Empire of Lies!

BURN IN HELL!!!

[Serb]

Countries don't have a gender in English unless you're engaging in personification.

So, it is "it" in general?

[Dinner]

Yes, they seem to really have been sitting on their butts and waiting until things got very bad before they bothered to act. France was the only one to even modestly start increasing production at the beginning of the war.

[Geronimo]

I can't fathom why Ukraine's allies all thought they could wait until late autumn or even right now to start placing new ammunition production orders. Especially given that every one one of them started off with far less ammunition than their defence plans required for almost anything that might happen.

[pchang]

It's a race to the bottom. Will Russia run out of men before Ukraine runs out of bullets or vice versa?

[Egbert]

When is attempting to make such a distinction actually helpful to explain anything?

could you clarify the difference between observing a possible motive and observing an actual motive?

You are speculating about motives.

I am finished with this conversation.

[BeBMan]

Are people still relying on western sources for information about the war?

Fascinating video: chief Kremlin propagandist Vladimir Solovyov explains to a 2008 Moscow theatre audience why war between Russia and Ukraine would be the greatest crime imaginable

[Dinner]

The T-54/55 tanks are mechanically simple and robust. They are very simple to operate compared to Western tanks, and do not require a high level of training or education in their crewmen. The T-54/55 is a relatively small main battle tank, presenting a smaller target for its opponents to hit. The tanks have good mobility thanks to their relatively light weight (which permits easy transport by rail or flatbed truck and allows crossing of lighter bridges), wide tracks (which give lower ground pressure and hence good mobility on soft ground), a good cold-weather start-up system and a snorkel that allows river crossings. In numbers... they can be a force.

Modern tanks ammo will go right through the existing armor on them.

[My Wife Hates CIV]

On the other hand... T-54/55 tanks had their drawbacks. Small size is achieved at the expense of interior space and ergonomics, which causes practical difficulties, as it constrains the physical movements of the crew and slows operation of controls and equipment. This is a common trait of most Soviet tanks and hence height limits were set for certain tank crew positions in the Soviet Army, whereas other armies may not include crew member height limits as standards.

The low turret profile of the tanks prevents them from depressing their main guns by more than 5° since the breech would strike the ceiling when fired, which limits the ability to cover terrain by fire from a hull down position on a reverse slope. As in most tanks of that class/generation, the internal ammunition supply is not shielded, increasing the risk that any enemy penetration of the fighting compartment could cause a catastrophic secondary explosion. The T-54 lacks NBC protection, and a turret basket, which meant that crewmen had to physically rotate and keep up with a rotating turret as the hull in which they stood didn't move with the turret. Additionally, early models also lacked gun stabilization. Most of these problems were corrected in the otherwise largely identical T-55 tank - but not to a level that makes a real difference on the battlefield against western armor.

Even in numbers they can't hold off a superior force.

[My Wife Hates CIV]

The T-54/55 tanks are mechanically simple and robust. They are very simple to operate compared to Western tanks, and do not require a high level of training or education in their crewmen. The T-54/55 is a relatively small main battle tank, presenting a smaller target for its opponents to hit. The tanks have good mobility thanks to their relatively light weight (which permits easy transport by rail or flatbed truck and allows crossing of lighter bridges), wide tracks (which give lower ground pressure and hence good mobility on soft ground), a good cold-weather start-up system and a snorkel that allows river crossings. In numbers... they can be a force.

[Dinner]

Given the all Russian media is state controlled and this filled with lies...

[Dinner]

Modernized T-55's can be somewhat useful, unfortunately for Russia, all the good upgrade packages are made by western countries like Slovakia.

And Russia's tank production relies on electronics and optics sourced from France.

Slovenia was trying to get rid of some T-55s for the last decade or so. Eventually, Germany give them some trucks in exchange for those ancient tanks (modestly upgraded in the 90's) and supposedly gave them to Ukraine.

[pchang]

No. we just accept everything that Serb says as gospel.

[Berzerker]

Are people still relying on western sources for information about the war?

[Broken_Erika]

Modernized T-55's can be somewhat useful, unfortunately for Russia, all the good upgrade packages are made by western countries like Slovakia.

And Russia's tank production relies on electronics and optics sourced from France.