Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[PLATO]

You are really a fancy idiot, Plato!
We've took Soledar and soon will take Bakhmut, and after that anyone with a half brain still functioning could realize that it is a breakthrough and the whole Ukranian defense line will collapse, which an entire collapse of the front.
Your brainwashing media wouldn't help the reality where everything will be all over soon!

Yes, anyone with HALF a brain would think that.

[Serb]

The tanks the US doesn't ship to Ukraine will just end up in the gulf of Mexico as artificial reefs some day anyway.

It's still better than under supplied Abrams run by Ukranian imbeciles.

[Serb]

And a bonus hymersonic ICBM and Nuclrear torpedoes into the the ass of your American master?

[Serb]

Is there obvious political pressure in Germany against letting other countries give leopards to Ukraine?

Why don't you send your half an old century Abrams?

[Serb]

So Russia looses 20,000 troops to take a town that had a prewar population of 10,500 and has no strategic importance. SOD Austin's comments on degrading Russia have relevance here I believe. Meanwhile, Ukraine may have a foothold in Kreminna, which actually does have strategic importance. Russia is a perfect example of how buffoons conduct a war.

Meanwhile, Britain should be a little more than halfway through training the second batch of 10,000 Ukrainian troops (10,000 every 120 days announced in June 2022). I imagine that intensive 6 week tank training is beginning on Leopards and Challenger2s. Patriot training is underway in Oklahoma. Looks like the Spring offensive is right on track.

Only wildcard here appears to be if Belarus can be forced into the war by Russia but it is doubtful that whatever of the 50,000 troops they have that can be committed will fair any better than the Russians have. They would likely face the same type obstacles that the original northern invasion did.

Although 2023 is shaping up to be a bloody year in the war, it my very well see peace talks by the end of summer. Hard to imagine that Russia can continue to sustain these type losses beyond that without a hugely unpopular full mobilization.

It is now clear that Ukraine is getting stronger by the day and Russia is getting weaker. Time for Global Firepower to bump China up to number 2 as clearly the Russians don't deserve that ranking at all.

You are really a fancy idiot, Plato!
We've took Soledar and soon will take Bakhmut, and after that anyone with a half brain still functioning could realize that it is a breakthrough and the whole Ukranian defense line will collapse, which an entire collapse of the front.
Your brainwashing media wouldn't help the reality where everything will be all over soon!

[Serb]

It looks like even God is against Russia. This winter has been relatively mild.

Russia is played by God directly, idiot! Otherwise one can't explain her existence.

[Serb]

Dude...how many empires had the Roman empire destroyed when the upstart Ottomons came for them?

It's good to see that you consider Byzantium as the Roman Empire, but my point was that you Western upstart have already tried to kil us many times, but failed.

The collective West have a tradition once in a century get together to be ass raped at the end of the day by Russia.

You (USA) as the new leader of this collective West is nothing new and nothing special.
You will be ass raped at the end of the day, as well.

[Serb]

Pathetic :idiots:

[Serb]

Ukraine had thousands of tanks at February 2022, then you gave them thousands more.
They are all destroyed now, that's why Zelensky is begging for more.
And you, idiots, seriously talking about a dozens or hundreds Western tanks as a "wonder weapon"?
Wake-up,

[Serb]

A Western clowns. :facepalm:

[PLATO]

The US especially could send hundreds at low to nonexistent cost. Those thousands of surplus never to be used Abrams don't just sit in a dessert. They have annual inspection, scheduled elastomer change outs and other maintenance activities to keep them from decaying to unusable junk. That costs money. If the US sends 1000 Abrams it would just mean less maintenance expenses. The US would still have thousands of surplus Abrams to deal with.

The cost of keeping a production base operable for sure. It's not costless though...training, spare parts, and jet fuel to run them will cost a fair amount. Still...quite the bargain for one of the world's top tanks. It wouldn't surprise me to see the Abrams deployed around Kyiv and the Leos actually go to war. Would make logistics a lot easier.

[Geronimo]

The tanks the US doesn't ship to Ukraine will just end up in the gulf of Mexico as artificial reefs some day anyway.

[Geronimo]

The US especially could send hundreds at low to nonexistent cost. Those thousands of surplus never to be used Abrams don't just sit in a dessert. They have annual inspection, scheduled elastomer change outs and other maintenance activities to keep them from decaying to unusable junk. That costs money. If the US sends 1000 Abrams it would just mean less maintenance expenses. The US would still have thousands of surplus Abrams to deal with.

[BeBMan]

Lol They could have made this a lot easier.

From what's reported now other nations signalled they may chime in, not only Poland, which was always demanding this I also read about Spain, Norway, and Finland may send some of their Leos. US now saying they send Abrams, UK had already moved to send Challengers, France may also add their own Leclerc tanks.

It's not ideal to have so many different systems, and the numbers may not be huge, esp. initially, but let's hope they help Ukraine causing more regrouping.

[Dauphin]

Poland: "Germany is standing in the way of sending Leopards! We may send them anyway!"
Germany: "We will not stand in the way of other countries sending Leopards, but we haven't been asked!"
Poland: "Fine! Can we send them?"
Germany: "Give us a couple days to think about it."

WTF?

Known as German Sitzkrieg.