Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[Bereta_Eder]

Europe wanted the US to defend its ass

[Bereta_Eder]

I don't know.
Maybe I'm taken aback by the US DECENCY in some matters

but will have to say that


do you know who wanted NATO?


Not the US. could'nt care less


the europeans wanted NATO with the US at its lead


true



you can't complain about a hegemony YOU wanted,,,,,

[Geronimo]

Vietnam didn't attack your territory

Ukraine didn't attack your territory either. North Vietnam did attack a sovereign recognized US ally...South Vietnam however...

[Geronimo]

Care to count how many wars we have won for the same period?

that's reasonable.

from The Livonian War starting in 1558 to present counting all foreign armed conflicts and excluding rebellions that didn't draw in a foreign power, I count a total of 107 conflicts. Of these Russia won I count that Russia won at least 64 wars out of 102 concluded wars over that time. I was quite generous in giving credit to multiple theater wins which could be construed as separate wars such assigning multiple ww2 and aftermath related wins and wins against revolts where a foreign power intervened against Russia as well as to conflicts Russia barely participated in and were won overwhelmingly by allies. By the same standards Russia seems to have lost 19 wars and had unfavorable results mixed with some lesser favorable results in 19 more.

That doesn't sound like a War Gods military record to me.

[Serb]

They have killed more their own civilians with their incompetent attempts to shot down our missiles.
Hell, they have even managed to kill two Polish peasants in Poland with their SAM launched from Ukraine!
Their are complete untrained degenerates.

[Serb]

Keep repeating Ukranian propaganda, Kiev Bob!

If our missiles were shot down, why they are begging for electricity generators?

[EPW]

With nearly zero civilian casualities.

Sure buddy You're right that the attacks have been largely ineffective (the rockets were shot down), but many of the ones that have made it through have killed scores of civilians.

[Serb]

With nearly zero civilian casualities.

[EPW]

Unlike your Ukrainian Nazi puppets we do not aim civilian targets

Brah, you've literally and recently bragged about Russia targeting infrastructure in Kyiv with rocket attacks.

[Serb]

You have leveled Vietnamese cities poisoned them with chemical weapons, so didn't change a bit since WW2.

The worse mass murderers of this planet in a entire human history.

[Serb]

The USWR also mass bombed and bombarded cities full of civilians. People in glass houses and all that.

This is a lie!
USSR had never have a concept of "firestorm" bombing to intentionally destroy cities and have never build strategic bombers for that concept.
We've builded airplanes of battlefield, you have builded airplanes for mass murdering.

You can't name a single fact of Soviet bombings like Dresden.

Hell, today Russia continues to deliberately target civilians as official government policy against all the laws of war.

This is another lie!
Unlike your Ukrainian Nazi puppets we do not aim civilian targets.

You can't name a single city which was intentionally destroyed by us like you have leveled Fallujah. You have leveled it to the ground intentionally, just like many other Iraq cities. You've never cared about civilians there, because they are not humans for you at all, just ragheads.

[Dinner]

I've heard this BS a hundred of times before.

The fact is that mass murdering of civilians was a normal practice in WW2 for Americans and British. You have incinerated millions of civilians with your firestorms. You have destroyed German and Japanese cities, burned millions alive and see nothing wrong with that. So, using nukes against a nearly defeated Japan for you was no a moral dilema at all - you have killed over 250 000 civilians in bombing of Tokyo - more then you have slain with nukes at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

So you can keep your whitewashing BS about saving lives for yourselves and your Japanese lackeys (who doesn't know now whom have dropped nukes on them, thanks to your "education").

That was both an experiment and a demonstration of force for you, nothing else.

The USWR also mass bombed and bombarded cities full of civilians. People in glass houses and all that. Hell, today Russia continues to deliberately target civilians as official government policy against all the laws of war.

[Serb]

You are mass murderers and always have been.

[Serb]

The best estimates at the time was that invading the Japanese home islands would cost 1 million casualties. So, yes, they were going to get used to avoid such loses.

I've heard this BS a hundred of times before.

The fact is that mass murdering of civilians was a normal practice in WW2 for Americans and British. You have incinerated millions of civilians with your firestorms. You have destroyed German and Japanese cities, burned millions alive and see nothing wrong with that. So, using nukes against a nearly defeated Japan for you was no a moral dilema at all - you have killed over 250 000 civilians in bombing of Tokyo - more then you have slain with nukes at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

So you can keep your whitewashing BS about saving lives for yourselves and your Japanese lackeys (who doesn't know now whom have dropped nukes on them, thanks to your "education").

That was both an experiment and a demonstration of force for you, nothing else.

[Dinner]

Blah-blah-blah.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were:
a) An experiment.
b) Demonstration of force to your ally - Soviet Union.


Had Roosevelt was still alive you would never used it, because there was no any military necessity for that - after the enterence of USSR in war vs. Japan (which was YOUR demand at the Potsdam's conference) and the destruction of Quantung army , Japan would have been defeated with conventional arms only.

The best estimates at the time was that invading the Japanese home islands would cost 1 million casualties. So, yes, they were going to get used to avoid such loses.