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The hubris in this thread is as predictable as the failure of its stated aim.
Poor Ukraine. Its comedian leader led astray by the US hawks who will ultimately betray them.
All they had to do was not pick a side. But no, they decided to make an enemy of Russia and are now paying the consequences 😥
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Originally posted by MOBIUS View PostThe hubris in this thread is as predictable as the failure of its stated aim.
Poor Ukraine. Its comedian leader led astray by the US hawks who will ultimately betray them.
All they had to do was not pick a side. But no, they decided to make an enemy of Russia and are now paying the consequences 😥
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lolol wait hyper liberal mobius is a russia apologist? did you forget they're not communist anymore?Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
"We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld
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Originally posted by Lorizael View Postlolol wait hyper liberal mobius is a russia apologist? did you forget they're not communist anymore?Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Originally posted by N35t0r View PostYou used to be liberal, and kid went off the deep end, so it's not that surprising.
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Originally posted by Geronimo View Post
You think Ukraine could have maintained full independence if it wasn't for US hawks? What do you think should have been done in the years since Russia annexed Crimea and took over a secessionist uprising in the Donbas?
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Originally posted by MOBIUS View Post
Well that's the problem, isn't it. The US has been destabilising Ukraine since before 2022, since before 2014 even, which was basically a US backed coup against a democratically elected government. So all of this is hardly surprising, isn't it?
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Originally posted by MOBIUS View Post
Well that's the problem, isn't it. The US has been destabilising Ukraine since before 2022, since before 2014 even, which was basically a US backed coup against a democratically elected government. So all of this is hardly surprising, isn't it?
Indifference is Bliss
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"I heard the US did some dirty dirty CIA stuff in Ukraine, therefore it's Ukraine's fault Russia invaded Ukraine, killed a bunch of Ukrainians, and dislocated a bunch more." Very smart political analysis.Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
"We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld
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Either MOBIUS has been kicked by a horse, or he is doing a parody of Nigel Farage.
One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.
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Originally posted by Geronimo View Post
how did you know it was a US backed coup? Serb knows because the impartial Russian media showed him it was obviously a coup.
The US has been desperate to maintain its hegemonic status. Russia has repeated its red lines about NATO expansionism since circa 2008, and complained it before then. What happened to Georgia in 2008 should have be a wake up call, but the fact of the matter is that the US doesn't give a **** about trashing any nations that happen to get sucked up and spat out along the way.
Ukraine is basically ****ed for our lifetimes, and for what? It won't have anything to show for it except a ruined nation and being in permanent debt to the US - it certainly won't be a member of NATO, which was surely the whole point of this utter folly...
Perhaps it's you guys being fed US propaganda, just like all the lies that emerged about Iraq like WMDs etc. How many of the usual suspects here got sucked in by that, I know I certainly wasn't. So yeah, my views have been remarkably consistent, actually.
Plenty of people have been warning about this **** for decades - when you back something dangerous in a corner, expect it to come out fighting, it's simply the laws of nature. I mean what else was Putin going to do?
That's not being an apologist - that's just being a realistic...
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NATO expanding was a consequence of Russian imperialist aggression, not the other way round. The Baltics and the Warsaw pact readily remembered Moscow's yoke, and applied to join NATO as soon as they could.
Your post here reads something like 'the Soviet Union is responsible for Pinochet's coup of Allende in Chile. They knew America was the USA's backyard and still gave him support.' It's excusing a bully, and also disgustingly treats people that aren't a major world power as incapable of having agency.Indifference is Bliss
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Originally posted by MOBIUS View Post
Victoria Nuland was literally recorded plotting it, among other things
The US has been desperate to maintain its hegemonic status. Russia has repeated its red lines about NATO expansionism since circa 2008, and complained it before then. What happened to Georgia in 2008 should have be a wake up call, but the fact of the matter is that the US doesn't give a **** about trashing any nations that happen to get sucked up and spat out along the way.
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