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Originally posted by Kidicious View PostPreponderance of the evidence is the standard, not beyond reasonable doubt. The media is giving the wrong impression.
Tweets don't win elections. Votes do.
Keep on Civin'
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Looking at who controls the voting systems and infrastructure, any reasonable person would say: If there's fraud, it's far more likely to be by Republicans.
Control of contested states:
Georgia: full GOP control, incl Governor and both houses of state congress
Pennsylvania: Dem governor, but GOP controls both houses of state congress
Arizona: full GOP control, incl Governor and both houses of state congress
Wisconsin: Dem governor, but strong GOP control of both state houses
Michigan: Dem governor, but strong GOP control of both state houses
Since the Republicans are in control of all these states Trump is (vainly) contesting, that means the GOP is totally incompetent in their jobs vis-a-vis running an election.
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Originally posted by Kidicious View PostPreponderance of the evidence is the standard, not beyond reasonable doubt. The media is giving the wrong impression.
You are now claiming statistical evidence, but this is because you don't understand statistics.
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Originally posted by Ming View Post
Nope, only Trump and his cult followers are giving the wrong impression. All of his supposed "evidence" is BS... he keeps losing in court because of his lack of evidence. And now, you can see how desperate he is, and how he knows he lost the actual vote so he's trying to get around the voters.
Tweets don't win elections. Votes do.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Reality...
The Trump administration’s own top cybersecurity official, election officials from both parties in all 50 states and international observers have affirmed that the Nov. 3 contest was secure and not hampered by widespread irregularities or fraud.
Meanwhile, judges across the country have dismissed lawsuits brought by the Trump campaign seeking to invalidate millions of ballots over the unfounded accusations, possibly explaining why the president is seeking to bring his pitch directly to state legislators.
Trump and his Cult...
Trump wonKeep on Civin'
RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O
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Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
Sure it is. For example, the standard in Bush v Gore was preponderance of the evidence, not beyond a reasonable doubt. And activist judges mean nothing.
And I guess almost all judges are activists to you since in almost every case, Trump has been tossed out of court.
Keep on Civin'
RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O
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The funny thing with regards to these Trumpian fraud allegations also is:
If the DEMs are so good at commiting voting fraud, why then is it possible that they have lost seats in the house of representatives and also haven't gained majority in the senate?
I mean, why should they only manipulate the presiential elections and not, at the same time, also manipulate the elections for the 2 houses?
Especially considering the fact that a majority in the senate (and a large majority in the house of representatives) is of much more worth than "only" having the PotUS from their own party.
If I had the ability to commit fraud fo the DEMs, Mitch McConnell wouldn't be a senator next year anymoreTamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
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Originally posted by Jon Miller View Post
But neither you nor Trump's lawyers have been able to point to any evidence.
You are now claiming statistical evidence, but this is because you don't understand statistics.
JMI drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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Originally posted by Proteus_MST View PostThe funny thing with regards to these Trumpian fraud allegations also is:
If the DEMs are so good at commiting voting fraud, why then is it possible that they have lost seats in the house of representatives and also haven't gained majority in the senate?
I mean, why should they only manipulate the presiential elections and not, at the same time, also manipulate the elections for the 2 houses?
Especially considering the fact that a majority in the senate (and a large majority in the house of representatives) is of much more worth than "only" having the PotUS from their own party.
If I had the ability to commit fraud fo the DEMs, Mitch McConnell wouldn't be a senator next year anymore
The US does not have a secure election system. That is a lie that the establishment is telling us.
That said, those commiting the fraud have to try to make it look as clean as possible, so they have some limitations. It's the same way if you commit financial fraud. You don't want to get too greedy and careless or you create more suspicion.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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Originally posted by -Jrabbit View PostLooking at who controls the voting systems and infrastructure, any reasonable person would say: If there's fraud, it's far more likely to be by Republicans.
Control of contested states:
Georgia: full GOP control, incl Governor and both houses of state congress
Pennsylvania: Dem governor, but GOP controls both houses of state congress
Arizona: full GOP control, incl Governor and both houses of state congress
Wisconsin: Dem governor, but strong GOP control of both state houses
Michigan: Dem governor, but strong GOP control of both state houses
Since the Republicans are in control of all these states Trump is (vainly) contesting, that means the GOP is totally incompetent in their jobs vis-a-vis running an election.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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The election system is open to abuse by anyone. And all of the contested states have both houses of their state congress controlled by the GOP, and both GA and AZ have Republican governors as well. So if there's a problem, clearly the GOP is where the suspicion should point.
If there was fraud committed on GOP watch, that's the GOP's responsibility.
BTW, your argument vs Proteus is the equivalent of handing someone a lighter, then accusing them of arson. Only stupider.
Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms
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Originally posted by -Jrabbit View PostThe election system is open to abuse by anyone. And all of the contested states have both houses of their state congress controlled by the GOP, and both GA and AZ have Republican governors as well. So if there's a problem, clearly the GOP is where the suspicion should point.
If there was fraud committed on GOP watch, that's the GOP's responsibility.
BTW, your argument vs Proteus is the equivalent of handing someone a lighter, then accusing them of arson. Only stupider.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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