I thought it was supposed to be Hillary who was the candidate hellbent on starting WWIII ... Trump's campaigning on not getting us into wars was about the only thing sane in his platform.
							
						
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 You're insane. We've been fighting in Iraq for more than a decade and still haven't won. That's just one country without nukes.
 
 We have lost trillions and most of the respect of the rest of the world on the endeavour though. And you want to double down on stupid.
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 Pretty sure this is RL, not Civ.Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
 RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms
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 The world is mostly communist, Muslim and liberal.Originally posted by Aeson View PostYou're insane. We've been fighting in Iraq for more than a decade and still haven't won. That's just one country without nukes.
 
 We have lost trillions and most of the respect of the rest of the world on the endeavour though. And you want to double down on stupid.Last edited by Kidlicious; April 12, 2017, 05:25.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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 ha! IF the US really fought a war (a real fight, not playing mr nice and with rules of engagement), the world would just look on with their mouth hangin open thinking - wow.Originally posted by Aeson View PostYou're insane. We've been fighting in Iraq for more than a decade and still haven't won. That's just one country without nukes.
 
 We have lost trillions and most of the respect of the rest of the world on the endeavour though. And you want to double down on stupid.
 
 and "still havent won". ha! again. It was never a real contest dont you agree aeson? more like a real life target range.
 
 
 
 
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 Completely true, I recommend you immediately construct a giant wall around America to keep us scary foreigners out. Then you can just give all that expensive military hardware to the police, although they've probably got most of it already.Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
 The world is mostly communist, Muslim and liberal.
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 Dude, you have the most powerful military in the world, but its not THAT powerful. You still have little things like logistics and basing rights to worry about, and those carrier battle groups of yours aren't invincible either. Any war against Russia or China and although you'd probably win, it'd still cost you incredibly dearly. And of course it would depend what 'win' actually meant. Getting most of your major cities nuked would be considered by most people to be a pretty phyrric victory.Originally posted by My Wife Hates CIV View Post
 ha! IF the US really fought a war (a real fight, not playing mr nice and with rules of engagement), the world would just look on with their mouth hangin open thinking - wow.
 
 and "still havent won". ha! again. It was never a real contest dont you agree aeson? more like a real life target range.
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 Where you failed was not winning the war, but rather in nation rebuildiing.Originally posted by My Wife Hates CIV View Post
 ha! IF the US really fought a war (a real fight, not playing mr nice and with rules of engagement), the world would just look on with their mouth hangin open thinking - wow.
 
 and "still havent won". ha! again. It was never a real contest dont you agree aeson? more like a real life target range.
 
 The last time where you were successful in this has been more than 70 years ago.
 You didn't even earnestly try it in Afghanistan and Iraq and rather limited yourself (after the won war) to tactical strikes against suspects that often enough resulted in collateral damages (speak: innocent civilian casualties) or brutal searches in households where you assumed weapons (where you treated the members of the households which were searched as if they were already proen guilty)
 (well, I may exaggerate a bit ... there surely were lots of soldiers who treated the people in Afghanistan/Iraq with dignity ... but there were enough cases like the ones I described, to rather alienate the ppulation, rather thn win their hearts)
 
 (aside from this your failure in nation building also resulted in the rise in ISIS, because after the tyranny of the Sunni (to which Saddam belonged) there followed a (felt) oppression of the Sunni by the Shia dominated government, giving ISIS arguments with which to perrsuade followers (many of them being part of the former Saddam government/military) .... perhaps ISIS wouldn't have appeared (at least not as powerful) if you actively had tried to take care that both religious groups (Shia and Sunni) be part of the government)Last edited by Proteus_MST; April 12, 2017, 18:50.Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
 Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"
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 Give us your anti-communists, anti-Islamists and anti-liberals.Originally posted by kentonio View Post
 Completely true, I recommend you immediately construct a giant wall around America to keep us scary foreigners out. Then you can just give all that expensive military hardware to the police, although they've probably got most of it already.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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 Sounds like you want to have people from our right wing (i.e. those who love to keep german to the germans, wish to throw all foreigners out (yet still love to eat at the local turkish Dönershop, or the local italian Pizzeria), dream of a return of the Großdeutsche Reich in its borders from before WW 1 and dream of the return of a great Führer like Hitler).Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
 Give us your anti-communists, anti-Islamists and anti-liberals.
 
 I am sure they would feel home in the alt-right of the USA, with Bannon and Beitbart.
 
 Unfortunately I assume that they will have problems learning english, considering that most of them don't seem to belong to the intelligent, industrious or ambitious part of the german population (actually something they have in common with those parts of the german population who became members of the IS ) )
 With some of them I actually wonder if they are capable of speaking/writing understandable High German, aside from phrases like "Ausländer raus" or ""Deutschland den Deutschen" or "Sieg Heil"
 
 You will also have to take into account that a large part of them will (due to their lack of ambition, intelligence, diligence and their lack of knowledge in english) most probably end up on welfare or being incapable of finding better jobs than casual employment.
 But maybe they would be good enough to replace the mexicans you throw out, with their jobs in house cleaning and illegal construction work Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve." Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
 Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"
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