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  • We can hope someday that we get to a point where there is no one so impoverished or desperate in the entire world
    Won't happen. Sorry to burst your bubble, Aeson.
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    • Never is a very long time...

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      • Ben is doing his best to make sure the human population outstrips the Earth's resources

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        • Originally posted by giblets View Post
          Ben is doing his best to make sure the human population outstrips the Earth's resources
          That would actually bring us closer to ending poverty
          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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          • Originally posted by giblets View Post
            Ben is doing his best to make sure the human population outstrips the Earth's resources
            I'm pretty sure he's still a virgin.
            “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

            ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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            • Ben is doing his best to make sure the human population outstrips the Earth's resources
              Curious comment. You are aware that this was the position of Ebeneezer Scrooge? "Reduce the surplus population?" People are not just 'useless mouths'. Far from it. You won't eliminate poverty by eliminating the poor.
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              • Originally posted by pchang View Post
                I'm pretty sure he's still a virgin.
                not by choice

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                • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                  14th Amendment to the US constitution. How else would you reconcile those born in territories not originally part of the United States? Should someone born in Texas in 1820 not be considered an American citizen, despite never moving and having lived in Texas for the last 45 years?
                  If your speaking of an Hispanic parent from Honduras here illegally, giving birth to a child here because they have flown under the radar and now have a child, make Honduras a state of these United States then I could follow your argument, otherwise I am missing your point Ben?

                  As for Texas they are a state and have been since 1845, led to a war with Mexico....or are you inferring we need to have a war with Mexico......some say we are...i.e. Fast and Furious.....
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                  • If your speaking of an Hispanic parent from Honduras here illegally, giving birth to a child here because they have flown under the radar and now have a child, make Honduras a state of these United States then I could follow your argument, otherwise I am missing your point Ben?
                    The point I am making is that birthright citizenship is part of why America did so well in the 19th century. If you were a peasant in Europe, you had no rights whatsoever, and your children would have no rights whatsoever. That did eventually change - but for many people, they had the opportunity in America for their children to become citizens. This is why you had the wave of immigrants in the latter half of the 19th and of the early portion of the 20th century.

                    As for Texas they are a state and have been since 1845, led to a war with Mexico....or are you inferring we need to have a war with Mexico......some say we are...i.e. Fast and Furious.....
                    No, what I'm saying is that without birthright citizenship you have a lot of people that would be excluded from citizenship just because they were technically born outside of America. Shouldn't folks in the newly annexed Texas become American citizens right away? That's what the 14th did.
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                    • So Obamacare will be abolished - except the parts which stay. The "wall" will be a fence, at least partly. Next I guess is re-branding existing border fences with giant "T R U M P" letters that glow in multiple colors at night.
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                      • “Give me your tired, your poor,
                        Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
                        The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
                        Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
                        I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
                        "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                        • Just read this from the Bibs: http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37969112

                          US President-elect Donald Trump has said he will deport or jail up to three million illegal migrants initially.

                          Those targeted would be migrants with criminal records, such as gang members and drug dealers, he told US broadcaster CBS in an interview.

                          Dunno how legal this is...I mean "criminal record" would say to me they had some trouble with law, but paid the consequences already - now they could get jailed for "illegal" immigration now and legal trouble previously?
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                          • Detain the drug dealers. Why didn't any other president think of that?

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                            • I think now Trump will get bored and lose interest after three months in office.
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                              • If you're dumb enough to break the law inside the US after crossing over, you really do deserve to get sent back.
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