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  • Also, you are not very well informed about how pneumonia happens. There are many ways, and some are simply not preventable. For instance my Dad gets it often because of a lung disease. He is not and never was a smoker. Just dumb luck with a rare interaction with a common type of spore.

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    • Given her unpopularity this should boost her chances. If she gets elected and incapacitated you would get whoever the hell her VP is as president. The fact that I don't even know who that is means he's got to be more palatable than either Hillary or Trump!
      Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will, as it did Obi Wan's apprentice.

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      • Originally posted by onodera View Post
        Pneumonia is ****ing rare in civilized countries. You go to the doc before you develop it, get your paid sick leave, stay in bed and nurse your bronchitis or whatever back to health.
        That's not true at all. Total misinformation. It can strike suddenly. Even quicker than the flu.
        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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        • Originally posted by Garth Vader View Post
          Given her unpopularity this should boost her chances. If she gets elected and incapacitated you would get whoever the hell her VP is as president. The fact that I don't even know who that is means he's got to be more palatable than either Hillary or Trump!
          Tim Kaine lol... Decent guy. He did work in central America (for charity I believe). Whole lot better than that moron Mike Pence.

          Tim Kaine is more well liked than Hillary, Trump or Pence. Lol.
          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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          • No-one will care about this by Nov 4th unless Hillary has other episode.

            In a rare moment of good news for the GOP they won't have to worry about Johnson this cycle but that's not the big prize. A libertarian breakaway might ruin their last chance to do something in 2020 but at least they don't have to worry about being replaced anymore. A good thing about being the losing minority party is that you can stop third parities by just promising everything to everyone if you get elected. There's just not enough time anymore.
            “...This means GCA won 7 battles against our units, had Horsemen retreat from 2 battles against NMs, and lost 0 battles.” --Jon Shafer 1st ISDG

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            • You know what would be extra drama? If they both drop out...lol.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • Originally posted by Dauphin View Post
                People often say that the office ages people, but then so does the simple passage of time. How much impact is down simply to the role of office, compared to whatever everyday **** people stress out and age over.
                Yeah. Consider 8 years for other people who are of roughly presidential age. We don't often look at pictures of random, middle-age/old people 8 years apart, but I suspect we'd see something similar.
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                • Hillary is actually performing comparable to Obama did in 2012, and why she may even do better as she is performing way better than Obama did in several southern states:



                  Remember WaPo's 50 state poll too. She scores 1% ahead in Texas, within the margin of error in Georgia (16 electoral votes? Correct me if I'm wrong) and within the margin of error in Arizona.

                  She has basically created plenty to fall back on.

                  She may be in better shape than what first appears. Remember Romney was quite close to Obama in national polling up until the end.
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • Originally posted by Aeson View Post
                    I can only find rates per country inc influenza, but I t looks like the death rate (per 1000 people, not cases) from pneumonia/influenza is about 2 times higher in Greece and Russia than in the US
                    Probably they are not reported in the US seeing as many people are uninsured and undocumented

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                    • No one is turned away from emergency rooms, which is generally where people who are dying turn up.

                      The US has plenty of problems with its healthcare system, but lack of cause of death stats generally isn't one of them. The reality is that pneumonia is one of, if not the, leading infectious killers in developed countries. Worldwide there are around 450 million cases a year. It can develop suddenly, and is not always preventable.

                      Just admit you were wrong.

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                      • Would you care posting the survey you're talking about?

                        I'm not wrong.
                        Pneumonia is non existant here.

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                        • Originally posted by Aeson View Post
                          No one is turned away from emergency rooms, which is generally where people who are dying turn up.
                          It's even anecdotal that this is the case.
                          It's one of the tragic/laughable things about the US

                          You have no money/no insurance, you die

                          (or in the best case scenario you're left with a debt to be payed your whole life, like if you want to study)

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                          • Originally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post
                            Would you care posting the survey you're talking about?

                            I'm not wrong.
                            Pneumonia is non existant here.
                            This is a lie. The rates of pneumonia is much higher in both Greece and Russia than it is in the United States. The United States may have many problems with its health care system, but it is still vastly better than what you have in Greece and certainly Russia.
                            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                            • There is clearly pneumonia in Greece. It's silly to pretend otherwise.

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                              • Originally posted by Giancarlo View Post
                                This is a lie. The rates of pneumonia is much higher in both Greece and Russia than it is in the United States. The United States may have many problems with its health care system, but it is still vastly better than what you have in Greece and certainly Russia.
                                You got so many millions living on the streets that are most probably unreported.

                                leaving aside the millions without health care that simply die. unreported

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