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  • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
    If you were born in Mexico, I could totally see your point about American colonialism. But you weren't You're a European from Spain who chose to immigrate to the United States. What right do you have to criticize someone who's family has been here 100 years?
    You are the bastard son of Nazi immigrants. Get real. 100 years bull****.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • Your grandfather was a ****ing nazi... right? You are a piece of ****. Bring it on. why don't you say this to my face?
      Nazis are scum, right Giancarlo? No, my Family left Germany before Hitler came to power, and after Germany lost the first world war. Thank God for that or they'd have been killed.

      How about yours? Was yours in Spain during the Franco years? Did they work for the Generalissimo?
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      • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
        Nazis are scum, right Giancarlo? No, my Family left Germany before Hitler came to power, and after Germany lost the first world war. Thank God for that or they'd have been killed.

        How about yours? Was yours in Spain during the Franco years? Did they work for the Generalissimo?
        Liar liar pants on fire.

        Your grandfather was in the SS. Stop lying.

        He fled and then came here.

        Bastard.
        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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        • Giancarlo doesn't take the lands from the tribes via treachery and military power, like the european colonialists did when they colonialized the territory that nowadays is Canada and the USA
          Ah, so it's ok to immigrate to the United States now, but not 250 years ago. If you think it's wrong - why are you choosing to come here and reap the benefits?
          Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
          "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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          • Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post
            Giancarlo (and other immigrants to the USA or Canada nowadays) doesn't take the lands from the tribes via treachery and military power, like the european colonialists did when they colonialized the territory that nowadays is Canada and the USA
            My boyfriend is Mexican. Seems to be I am more about love and not hate. Ben wants to kill immigrants.
            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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            • Your grandfather was in the SS. Stop lying.
              LOL, which one? The one who was born in Saskatchewan or the one who was born in Alberta? Choose wisely.
              Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
              "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
              2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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              • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                LOL, which one? The one who was born in Saskatchewan or the one who was born in Alberta? Choose wisely.
                Hitler's SS.

                Go back to Canada.
                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                • You never answered my question about Franco. Did your family serve him?
                  Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                  "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                  2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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                  • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                    You never answered my question about Franco. Did your family serve him?
                    Did your family serve in concentration camps as prison guards? I already know the answer!
                    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                    • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                      Ah, so it's ok to immigrate to the United States now, but not 250 years ago. If you think it's wrong - why are you choosing to come here and reap the benefits?
                      We cannot turn back the wheels of time ... so unfortunately the bloody history of the colonization of the USA and Canada is a fait accompli.
                      The only thing that could be done would be to finally give the native american tribes the reparation money they deserve.

                      But that, of course, is blocked by all those people who see the colonization in a positive light and believe in the illusion of a manifest destiny (and in conversion with fire and sword)
                      Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
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                      • We cannot turn back the wheels of time ... so unfortunately the bloody history of the colonization of the USA and Canada is a fait accompli.
                        It's right to take land away from people who bought and paid for it? No, Proteus it's not.

                        The only thing that could be done would be to finally give the native american tribes the reparation money they deserve.
                        If you look at what welfare payments have been, since the 60s, it would amount to about 9k per year for an individual. That would amount to - 504k per person.

                        At the time, in the 1960s, say we put a price on the land at what would now be 100/acre. That would be 2.3 billion acres, so about 230 billion dollars total.

                        That is enough to pay for the welfare payments for about 460 thousand people.

                        There are 5.2 million Native Americans.

                        It would amount to a payment of 44k per native American in a one shot disbursement. Or, at the 9k welfare payments, about 5 years of welfare payments at 9k per year.

                        The debt has been paid. 5x over. The debt was paid by about 1970 - that was 45 years ago.

                        But that, of course, is blocked by all those people who see the colonization in a positive light and believe in the illusion of a manifest destiny (and in conversion with fire and sword)
                        The fact of the matter is that the debt has already been paid.
                        Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                        "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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                        • Ben comparing me to a colonialist. I thought I heard it all. He is completely unhinged. He is a lunatic.
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • Did your family serve in concentration camps as prison guards? I already know the answer!
                            Nope. But they did fight the Germans in the First world war! For the Americans! LOL
                            Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                            "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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                            • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                              Nope. But they did fight the Germans in the First world war! For the Americans! LOL
                              No. They served as Nazi prison guards because I say so.
                              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                              • Oh. I see. But I didn't know that Stone Cold was Spanish.
                                Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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