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  • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
    Both my sources up in the thread confirm my positions. Better fire up the choppers!
    Liar liar pants on fire. Your sources don't corroborate what you said.

    Fire up the choppers? Oh the Catholic Church helped with that during Argentina's dirty war.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • Your sources don't corroborate what you said.
      Yes they did.

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      • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
        The point being that tax collection authority relies upon the ability of the state to assert the collection. No ability to collect = it doesn't matter what your tax rates are, people will choose not to pay.

        Cutting defense to zero would likely prompt people to set up their own defense 'systems'. If you're wealthy enough you could have a group of people who's job was to protect you, your family and your property.
        Noone said that the defense budget should be cut to zero
        With ~20% of the total federal budget, you can do a lot of cutting until you get to zero
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        • Noone said that the defense budget should be cut to zero
          You might not have, but Gian did.
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          • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
            Yes they did.

            Liar liar pants on fire.

            Are you related to the Benham bros?
            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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            • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
              You might not have, but Gian did.
              Proof?

              Like a typical republican, you are lying about what I said.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • Like a typical republican, you are lying about what I said.
                What would be the percentage that defense should be cut to?
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                • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                  What would be the percentage that defense should be cut to?
                  Perhaps by 20-30% as well as sending some projects for audit and the chopping block. Many projects need to be audited because of their huge overlay expenses (lifetime costs).

                  I never said cut it to zero. Just another one of your stupid lies.
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • Perhaps by 20-30% as well as sending some projects for audit and the chopping block. Many projects need to be audited because of their huge overlay expenses (lifetime costs).
                    .3x.25 = 7 and a half percent, which is about double education spending. Not enough, and also doesn't address the 2025 problem with rising entitlements. Entitlements are going to have to be cut.
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                    • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                      .3x.25 = 7 and a half percent, which is about double education spending. Not enough, and also doesn't address the 2025 problem with rising entitlements. Entitlements are going to have to be cut.
                      Here he goes again with his stupid math and delusional paranoia about the debt. I don't give a **** what you want or think we should be cut. You moron... Many defense projects have lifetime costs that are often kept off the record.

                      You don't know anything about the budget.
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • A third of a quarter of the budget is a cut of 7 and a half percent. I don't see why this is hard to grasp.
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                        • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                          A third of a quarter of the budget is a cut of 7 and a half percent. I don't see why this is hard to grasp.
                          Idiot isn't paying attention again.

                          And like cutting 3% would make much difference.

                          Ben, you are incredibly stupid! And you just ignored everything I wrote about lifetime costs and overlays.

                          Stick to ****ing religious history. This topic is too complex for you.
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • Ben, you are incredibly stupid! And you just ignored everything I wrote about lifetime costs and overlays.
                            What about them? I don't see how that affects entitlement expansion.
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                            • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                              What about them? I don't see how that affects entitlement expansion.
                              Stupid Stupid Stupid STUPID!

                              Your paranoid republicanism is well known.

                              Not only are you stupid on economic matters, you don't know anything about... anything lol.
                              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                              • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                                Actually, I would probably have ended up doing something like carpentry or smithing. Occupations that have little need for hearing. Also, working in the factories at the time would have not greatly preferenced hearing over not hearing. Or farming for that matter.
                                All those jobs (with the possible exception of the most manual farming or factory labour) would have required you to be taught skills. At a time when deafness was usually mistaken for retardation, it seems highly unlikely they'd have chosen deaf youths for skilled jobs.

                                Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                                I am not the only one in my family that cannot hear, I wouldn't be here if my ancestors were unable to find some way to make a living.
                                You should look into your family tree some time, it would be interesting to see what any deaf ancestors actually did (if there are records of course).

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