Pope: Catholics should ask gay people for forgiveness

[Ben Kenobi]

It's kind of amusing that you want to turn the clock back to the 19th century, given that back then a deaf kid would have been treated basically as a ******, and perhaps if the people were particularly kind have been trusted with sweeping up animal **** or some other work no-one else wanted to do. You certainly wouldn't have seen the inside of a school at any point (although I'm not sure we would really be able to tell the difference).

Actually, I would probably have ended up doing something like carpentry or smithing. Occupations that have little need for hearing. Also, working in the factories at the time would have not greatly preferenced hearing over not hearing. Or farming for that matter.

I am not the only one in my family that cannot hear, I wouldn't be here if my ancestors were unable to find some way to make a living.

[Ben Kenobi]

Who said anything about no one protecting anyone? You just want unnecessary multi trillion dollar war planes with huge overlay costs over food.

I don't see fighter jets as 'unnecessary'.

[Giancarlo]

Ben ignored my points on the top 10 countries in the world when it comes to education. All have a highly centralized approach to education. Like all the Asian countries. So what can help America? Federalize the education system entirely. It is too fragmented.

[Giancarlo]

I don't see fighter jets as 'unnecessary'.

Drones, idiot.

The F-35 is disgustingly unnecessary.

[Ben Kenobi]

(although some groups like the Catholics tend to emphasize Tradition and minimize Revelation).

Catholics just have a broader scope of special revelation - it's not just the Bible. Scripture and tradition are both parts of revelation.

[Ben Kenobi]

Ben ignored my points on the top 10 countries in the world when it comes to education. All have a highly centralized approach to education. Like all the Asian countries. So what can help America? Federalize the education system entirely. It is too fragmented.

What was Japan's rank in 1945?

[Ben Kenobi]

Ben, has the military ever been called in to collect taxes? So saying that if you reduce the military will make it impossible to collect taxes, is just another of your insane opinions.
You should also really look at the charter school scandals before you claim that privatization of schools is the answer.

The point being that tax collection authority relies upon the ability of the state to assert the collection. No ability to collect = it doesn't matter what your tax rates are, people will choose not to pay.

Cutting defense to zero would likely prompt people to set up their own defense 'systems'. If you're wealthy enough you could have a group of people who's job was to protect you, your family and your property.

[Ben Kenobi]

Again Bush kept a lot of discretionary spending off the books and his tax cuts had a lasting impact.

You have no real facts and you are lying once again.

Your contention was 'less than Eisenhower'. Given that the debt that Dubya inherited was only 5 trillion, and is now 19.5 trillion that's 100 percent false.

[Ben Kenobi]

'We don't need to cut anything, asides from long term defense spending. What we also need to do is roll back these idiotic taxcuts for the rich. Raise tax rates to 1950s levels. You probably won't like that one bit. For a guy so sucked up in the past, you would be having a total fit if you saw the tax rates on the rich during that time.

By 2025 even with zero defense spending entitlement spending will outstrip revenues. Raising taxes to 1950s levels would actually lower revenue.

[Giancarlo]

Your contention was 'less than Eisenhower'. Given that the debt that Dubya inherited was only 5 trillion, that's 100 percent false.

You don't know what you are talking about once again. Liar liar pants on fire.

[Giancarlo]

By 2025 even with zero defense spending entitlement spending will outstrip revenues. Raising taxes to 1950s levels would actually lower revenue.

Liar liar pants on fire. Raising taxes would not lower revenue.

[Giancarlo]

What was Japan's rank in 1945?

I don't care. It is 2016.

[Ben Kenobi]

was Catholic once

So now your Catholicism is relevant? Curious that.

[Ben Kenobi]

Liar liar pants on fire. Raising taxes would not lower revenue.

Both my sources up in the thread confirm my positions. Better fire up the choppers!

[Giancarlo]

So now your Catholicism is relevant? Curious that.

Once lol. I can talk about how full of **** the religion is... as I experienced it.