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  • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
    How is the statement, "for mass killings of 10 or more people, white people make up a minority of the perpetrators?"
    Wrong. Your own source didn't say that. Legal definitions define mass killings as 4 or more. But then again you think if it is less than 10 it isn't a mass killing. You're just an idiot. I don't even know why I'm even entertaining this discussion any further.

    That statement is bull**** anyways. Just like everything else you have posted in this thread.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
      [[citation needed]]. When have I ever said this?
      Don't even try this. I was getting into an argument with you about gay people earlier in this thread. You basically said that homosexuality is a choice.
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
        So you're calling me out after I already clarified my statement. That's rather sad.
        No.... what's sad is your constant lying.
        You clarified your statement only AFTER you were proved wrong. Your lame attempt to change the definition to meet your POV is just another example of your intellectual dishonesty. Your own source proved you wrong.
        Thanks for playing... you lose yet again.
        Keep on Civin'
        RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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        • You basically said that homosexuality is a choice.
          I see it as an inclination akin to alcoholism. Alcoholics always have to be careful around alcohol. If I believed that prayer alone was sufficient, why would I be making this comparison?
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          • Asking for forgiveness is a good thing as it shows humility as well as a desire for understanding and compassion.
            Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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            • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
              I see it as an inclination akin to alcoholism. Alcoholics always have to be careful around alcohol. If I believed that prayer alone was sufficient, why would I be making this comparison?
              So is heterosexuality an inclination like alcoholism? you're really, really STUPID.

              Homosexuality is a SEXUAL orientation. It has nothing to do with "inclination" and me being in a relationship with someone of the same sex doesn't harm myself or anyone else. Maybe if you saw me with my BOYFRIEND you would understand that the love is VALID and REAL. If you can't accept that, it isn't my PROBLEM.

              You're a horrible person in every sense. And Ming is right... you're completely intellectually dishonest.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • Originally posted by Giancarlo View Post
                And Ming is right... you're completely intellectually dishonest.
                Well duh..

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                • Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                  Well duh..
                  Was I asking you?
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • Do I care?

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                    • Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                      Do I care?
                      You just seem to chime in with more useless BS, kinda like Ben.
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                        • So is heterosexuality an inclination like alcoholism? you're really, really STUPID.
                          It is an inclination - yes.

                          Homosexuality is a SEXUAL orientation. It has nothing to do with "inclination" and me being in a relationship with someone of the same sex doesn't harm myself or anyone else.
                          Again, I am arguing that it is an inclination - a directed set of desires that you experience. I don't see the issue with defining it in this way.

                          Maybe if you saw me with my BOYFRIEND you would understand that the love is VALID and REAL. If you can't accept that, it isn't my PROBLEM.
                          Where am I denying that your feelings are real, Gian?

                          You're a horrible person in every sense. And Ming is right... you're completely intellectually dishonest.
                          You claimed I believe that you can pray the gay away. given that I compared it to alcoholism that would indicate that my argument is not as you stated it previously.
                          Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                          "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                          2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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                          • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                            It is an inclination - yes.
                            No, it is not.

                            Again, I am arguing that it is an inclination - a directed set of desires that you experience. I don't see the issue with defining it in this way.
                            Except the very premise of your argument is false. It isn't a set of desires. You need to look up the actual definition. I do see an issue with it because that is a false definition. Sexual orientation is not a set of chosen desires.

                            Where am I denying that your feelings are real, Gian?



                            You claimed I believe that you can pray the gay away. given that I compared it to alcoholism that would indicate that my argument is not as you stated it previously.
                            You basically claimed what I am is comparable to alcoholism. Alcoholism is deadly and is not comparable to ones sexual orientation. You are a liar.
                            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                            • Gee Ben, now you consider being Gay a disease.
                              inclination akin to alcoholism
                              Using that logic, I guess being a Psycho Catholic is a disease also. We all pray for you to be cured.

                              What a dolt. And the funny thing is that he thinks it's less insulting.
                              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                              RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                              • That's the problem with ben.
                                he insults people.
                                being gay seems from studies almost guaranteed to be genetic.
                                but he tries to say it's environmental.
                                why?
                                because if it is then he might try to "change it"

                                and why would he want that?

                                so people don't burn in hell

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