Pope: Catholics should ask gay people for forgiveness

[Ben Kenobi]

Also, if you are going to quote someone in your signature, you really shouldn't edit the content.

Apologies. The post (and earlier sig) got deleted when Poly got wiped. I tried to remember the exact wording as best as possible.

[Ben Kenobi]

No... More amusing that you couldn't even look up the definition of your OWN SOURCE. You are the one with the issue. I stated MANY MANY MANY times that I was simply using YOUR SOURCE. If you couldn't figure that one out...

I honestly didn't see what the big deal was. It was just a simple question - "what's the standard you are using?" "Four people". "Ok"

Also, Ming never stated 2/3rds either, nor listed out the breakdown. I stated the percentage from YOUR SOURCE. I guess that isn't good enough for JUST YOU. Nobody else had a problem with it.

Well, that's sorta the point of an argument, no? I never claimed that what you posted was false, only that the evidence be presented the same way I presented mine, listing out the individual cases.

tried to cherry pick the results to support your mistaken/lying POV.

You've actually not posted an empirical argument yet. This isn't hard, Ming. My argument is correct, btw.

And none of your deflections, change of subjects, demanding the answers to lame questions

Uh - why is asking you to define a term, lame? It's a crucial part of a discussion.

Have a nice day.

[Dauphin]

Apologies. The post (and earlier sig) got deleted when Poly got wiped. I tried to remember the exact wording as best as possible.

If you can't quote directly, you should acknowledge that by either deleting it, or making it clear you are attempting to paraphrase.

[Ben Kenobi]

If you can't quote directly, you should acknowledge that by either deleting it, or making it clear you are attempting to paraphrase.

I find the 'solid lies' portion amusing.

[Dauphin]

I think most people do, but for a different reason to you. Doesn't mean you can make **** up.

[Ben Kenobi]

I think most people do, but for a different reason to you. Doesn't mean you can make **** up.

Well, then I don't see the issue. That's the important part of the quote.

[Dauphin]

First you say Kentonio, then Kid. Make up your mind with the **** you want to make up.

[Ming]

I honestly didn't see what the big deal was. It was just a simple question - "what's the standard you are using?" "Four people". "Ok"

I repeatedly answered I was using your source's definition. If you were too stupid to not have looked at your own source in the first place, that's not my fault... but yours... OK!

Well, that's sorta the point of an argument, no? I never claimed that what you posted was false, only that the evidence be presented the same way I presented mine, listing out the individual cases.

But what you claimed was false... you cherry picked your own source. The source you used proved you wrong. And why on god's green earth should I be forced to list EVERY SINGLE MASS SHOOTING to prove you are wrong. The study was very clear, and was your own source.

You've actually not posted an empirical argument yet. This isn't hard, Ming. My argument is correct, btw.

Just pointed out that your argument wasn't correct, and that you were wrong or lying... And your own source proves it.

Uh - why is asking you to define a term, lame? It's a crucial part of a discussion.

Maybe you should have looked at your own source since that was the real crucial part of the discussion.
Next time you try to make something up and provide a source, make sure that source actually supports you.

[Giancarlo]

Is this still going on? Ben obviously lives in fantasy land. He is lying and skirting the reality by making up his own definitions. I seen Dinner do the same too. It seems to be common with one or two posters on here.

You can't ask for a logical argument from someone who distorts and lies about everything. I couldn't even get a direct answer out of him regarding gay people.

[rah]

Just more typical clueless Ben.

[Giancarlo]

Ben is the guy that thinks gay people choose to be gay and that therapy and prayer can "change" them. What do we expect from the simpleton?

[Ben Kenobi]

Ben is the guy that thinks gay people choose to be gay and that therapy and prayer can "change" them. What do we expect from the simpleton?

[[citation needed]]. When have I ever said this?

[Ben Kenobi]

He is lying and skirting the reality by making up his own definitions

How is the statement, "for mass killings of 10 or more people, white people make up a minority of the perpetrators?"

[Ming]

How is the statement, "for mass killings of 10 or more people, white people make up a minority of the perpetrators?"

Because that's NOT what you said. You added the 10 crap AFTER being called out on it.
So stop your lying and your dishonesty. YOU WERE WRONG. DEAL WITH IT.

[Ben Kenobi]

Because that's NOT what you said. You added the 10 crap AFTER being called out on it.

So you're calling me out after I already clarified my statement. That's rather sad.