Pope: Catholics should ask gay people for forgiveness

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Actually he sounds pretty perky to me. BK seems to be the one that needs some perking.

[Ben Kenobi]

I don't know what he's trying to prove. There isn't a person that has posted in the last couple of pages that haven't assessed the facts and judged him ignorant, oh and a criminal.

You really want to get in my head? I'm amused that the hate runs so strong among the three of you. Ming rah and Giancarlo are so deep that people are falling over themselves to condemn me. I'm particularly amused that Giancarlo, who's been ranting about my alcoholism is still seeking for that chink that he could go about and objectively say, "I am *better* than Ben Kenobi*.

His squirming just makes him looks worse and nothing he says is going to change anybody's opinion on this. So obviously it looks like the only one he's trying to convince is himself.

You really think that I'm trying to change your opinion... on me? I think there are better ways of doing that than talking about something like this.

He's even dishonest with himself. Really quite sad. But his type of hatred doesn't deserve any sympathy or even pity.

There's been a few wiser heads here... You should listen to them, rah. Gian and Ming are not the wiser heads. You - at least were perceptive enough to see what I was trying to say earlier. You don't see how the hate has changed you, Ming and Giancarlo? You stepped back.

That is what I hope Ming and Giancarlo will see - that their hate has driven them so far off...

[rah]

And the final BK tactic.

Play the victim.

I don't want your pity.

The only person I won't listen to is you. I don't really care that you said you were a criminal. Most of us have done things also. It's your self justification and denial that is so typical and what makes you a douche.

[Ben Kenobi]

The only person I won't listen to is you.

Then don't. But listen to some of the cooler heads in this thread. Please. I go back through the archives. You were not like this before.

I don't really care that you said you were a criminal. Most of us have done things also.

Personally I've done things quite a bit worse than this. So it amuses me to see you froth over something that, honestly, doesn't really matter much to me.

It's your self justification and denial that is so typical and what makes you a douche.

LOL, that, what, a couple times I chose to buy an EBT card? Ok. Lock me away, throw away the key. Sheesh.

[Giancarlo]

I've seen some sad posts, this has to be one of the saddest posts on the forum that I've ever seen. Seriously- Giancarlo.

I have been lucky to meet some really amazing people in my life. People for whom I have tremendous respect.

They have been a real guidance to me, helping me become a better person. I've talked a little bit about these people, there's a couple that are here on Apolyton, although some don't post very much.

People ask me all the time - "why are you here, Ben?" Everyone here treats you like so much ****. They don't see how things are on my end -that some of those amazing people I have met are on here. They took the time to reach out to a guy who, really, didn't have very much going on for him.

You seem to think that I have a high opinion of myself. Why, I am not sure. I don't really consider myself better than anyone here - that is what you don't seem to understand, Giancarlo. I am here because of the people that I have met and that I enjoy spending time with them. Nothing more, nor less.

You preening - and saying, "I am of course a better person". Damn, son. You really think I think higher of you for actually taking the time to say that? I see a scared, insecure little boy who feels the need to try to assert dominance over someone who's not even interested in playing that game with you.

No, Giancarlo - you need to figure out what's going on in your life because whatever it is it isn't working.

If you were trying to make me think, "Man I have to change my life because it sucks harder than Giancarlo?" You've done the exact opposite. I'm sitting here thinking that wow. Your life is so ****ty that this is what you do to make yourself feel better?

I pity you, Gian, really I do. I hope things perk up for you.

I'm at a loss for words. You are really a sad person in every respect.

You want to know about me? I'll dress in drag with full confidence. I have a boyfriend who I deeply love. I have a career. I also am proud of myself for being me.

My life does not suck trust me on that one.

I don't need to do anything to make myself feel better.

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Then don't. But listen to some of the cooler heads in this thread. Please. I go back through the archives. You were not like this before.

Back then I owned the site. Big difference. You were a douche back then too. Now I don't own it so I can tell you what I really think. Besides, the first thing I learned in school was not to piss off your customers. Something Catholics could learn.

LOL, that, what, a couple times I chose to buy an EBT card? Ok. Lock me away, throw away the key. Sheesh.

Gee, then why did you use all the posts to defend/justify yourself? If you had just copped to it back then you wouldn't have taken anywhere near as much crap. We are not fooled.

And keep the most important thing in mind. We're all showing one person hatred because.
You're using your religion as an excuse to treat a whole group of people like people used to treat blacks. Even after you pope tells you not to.
No one is asking the church to marry them, The pope isn't trying to tell the church to marry them. He's just telling you not to be a douche about it.
You get what you give. And in all honesty you don't get enough.

[Giancarlo]

You really want to get in my head? I'm amused that the hate runs so strong among the three of you. Ming rah and Giancarlo are so deep that people are falling over themselves to condemn me. I'm particularly amused that Giancarlo, who's been ranting about my alcoholism is still seeking for that chink that he could go about and objectively say, "I am *better* than Ben Kenobi*.



You really think that I'm trying to change your opinion... on me? I think there are better ways of doing that than talking about something like this.



There's been a few wiser heads here... You should listen to them, rah. Gian and Ming are not the wiser heads. You - at least were perceptive enough to see what I was trying to say earlier. You don't see how the hate has changed you, Ming and Giancarlo? You stepped back.

That is what I hope Ming and Giancarlo will see - that their hate has driven them so far off...

You're hilarity.

You are trying to elevate yourself above me... because I wear girl clothes and have a boyfriend.

You are not wise at all.

It doesn't take much to better than Benny Boy. Anyone on here is.

[Giancarlo]

Ben... talking about hate...

[Giancarlo]

Actually he sounds pretty perky to me. BK seems to be the one that needs some perking.

Hahah... what do you mean by that lol?

But hey it's all cool. Ben needs to lighten up. He takes things so seriously.

I exude confidence because I know who I am and I accept who I am.

[Ming]

Yep... he's playing the victim. What a joke.
And he, the master of hate and bigotry, is trying to accuse others of his worst traits...
A very sad little man.

I have no hate for you BK... just disgust. Two very different things.

[Giancarlo]

I don't have hate for him either. I just don't like bigotry or hatred that he has displayed towards me and other people in this thread. And this is 80 pages of "Benisms" throughout. Anyone can take a look at who the one expressing hatred and bigotry really is. I'm quite disgusted too.

[Ben Kenobi]

You want to know about me?

Not really, but you're going to tell us.

I'll dress in drag with full confidence. I have a boyfriend who I deeply love. I have a career. I also am proud of myself for being me.

4 stars, would read again.

I don't need to do anything to make myself feel better.

Here's a tip - winners don't say things like, "of course you see that I am better than you".

I exude confidence

Mhmm. Sure.

[rah]

Yeah, I guess disgusted is a more accurate word.

And only a loser would treat a person like a second class citizen because of his sexual preference, and even worse insult him by comparing it to alcoholism/disease.

[Ben Kenobi]

I found an avatar for you Giancarlo.

It doesn't take much to better than Benny Boy. Anyone on here is.

Why is this important to you, Gian? Why me in particular? See, this is what I'm trying to get you to see - how you come off to everybody else here.

[rah]

Douche