was corbyn really against the remain?

[Aeson]

I don't blame them either if I have first checked myself and the whole political system and see that they have another option

It's good you can admit you were wrong about cockney not holding them blameless, but it's better to admit you are wrong for holding them blameless.

[Bereta_Eder]

Run away fascist apologist ...

hardly

[Bereta_Eder]

It's good you can admit you were wrong about cockney not holding them blameless, but it's better to admit you are wrong for holding them blameless.

This is a question of semantics and completely different areas.

In your country fascists have already won for decades.

[Bereta_Eder]

What have you done?

[C0ckney]

hardly

yeah, it's pretty amusing considering that i'm involved in anti-fascist activities, and went on a march under the anti-fascist banner last month. but it's about the level of intellectual honesty that one can expect from aeson.

[Bereta_Eder]

yeah, it's pretty amusing considering that i'm involved in anti-fascist activities, and went on a march under the anti-fascist banner last month. but it's about the level of intellectual honesty that one can expect from aeson.

It's fine, I just don't understand the practicality of aeson questioning you, or me, about it because it kind of seems we're all on the same camp

[Aeson]

In your country fascists have already won for decades.

Nope. There are some fascists, and some fascist aspects to US foreign policy, but if the US were actually fascist you and I wouldn't be here discussing this.

[Bereta_Eder]

Nope. There are some fascists, and some fascist aspects to US foreign policy, but if the US were actually fascist you and I wouldn't be here discussing this.

A slight exageration to push the message across that when we're actually fighting for the preservation of a universal health care system, for example, yours was never there.

[Aeson]

It's fine, I just don't understand the practicality of aeson questioning you, or me, about it because it kind of seems we're all on the same camp

You want to absolve people of all responsibility of their choices. A ****ty system doesn't excuse ****ty behavior. Those who hate foreigners and immigrants are wrong to do so, and those who support pols which promote such hate are wrong to do so.

[Aeson]

A slight exageration to push the message across that when we're actually fighting for the preservation of a universal health care system, for example, yours was never there.

A massive exaggeration to distract from the fact you are wrong to excuse fascists of being fascists.

[Bereta_Eder]

You want to absolve people of all responsibility of their choices. A ****ty system doesn't excuse ****ty behavior. Those who hate foreigners and immigrants are wrong to do so, and those who support pols which promote such hate are wrong to do so.

Have you heard of proportional responsibility?

As kazantsakis said: fight like the whole fate of the world rests on your hands only and you're the only one responsible for it

About the fascist US policy I hope you are talking about yourself not being able to speak freely

[Aeson]

yeah, it's pretty amusing considering that i'm involved in anti-fascist activities, and went on a march under the anti-fascist banner last month. but it's about the level of intellectual honesty that one can expect from aeson.

Yet you don't blame those who supporting fascists.

[ZEE]

AAHZ hates all Human Beings equally* so I must be a Super-Neo-Ultra-XenoFascist.


*except for Nigel Farage. He is the best!

[Bereta_Eder]

A massive exaggeration to distract from the fact you are wrong to excuse fascists of being fascists.

There is a difference between excusing them and checking wether you have done your outmost to offer them another choice

[Bereta_Eder]

Dissilution takes many forms. Populists will always try to divert the cause away from themselves.
There's nothing happier for a "capitalist" (bare with different terminologies) than to swift blame