Sharia Law at Wal Mart [Trigger Warning: People Arguing With Ben]

[Aeson]

When you think about it ... nature has killed tens of billions of people, and will surely kill many billions more. So I can't really understand why Hitler gets so much bad press. He was practically a saint in comparison!

[Bereta_Eder]

hitler might be small patatoes compared to what other genocides were there, but nature doesn't compare because it wasn't on purpose

[Sava]

You're probably sipping from a starbucks cup when you say this.

Nope.

And that wouldn't change the fact that you are failing miserably at Christianity.

[Ben Kenobi]

Nope.

Point still stands - you're sitting and typing this on an evil capitalist corporate produced machine.

And that wouldn't change the fact that you are failing miserably at Christianity.

Christ came to save the perfect?

[Ben Kenobi]

Well, the land was rightfully owned by the indian tribes of the regions.

Did they have title to it?

Partially the indians were scammed out of their possession of the land, by being forced to sign treaties that they didn´t fully understand

So you're saying is that they sold something they valued little for things that they valued more? What's wrong with that?

when they didn´t want to sign any treaties.

What did they do to the other tribes? Did they have an agreement by which everyone recognized their ownership of the land? Or did they simply seize what they could?

Not to mention those tribes that were enslaved and forced to convert to the christian faith ... with the help of christian missionaries/priests

Oh, yes. Because they were noble savages prior to the hateful Christians who taught them how to hate each other.

[C0ckney]

ben on the colonisation of the americas: a boon for the indigenous population (who didn't own the land anyway).

ben on the supreme pontiff losing his princely estates: outrageous!

[Ben Kenobi]

ben on the colonisation of the americas: a boon for the indigenous population (who didn't own the land anyway).

Did they have an agreement with the other tribes that this was their land? If not, then how can they say that they owned the land? I love how you lump all 'indigenous people' as if they were a collective.

ben on the supreme pontiff losing his princely estates: outrageous!

Given that the Church bought the land in question - I'm not sure why you're arguing that the Papacy had no right to be compensated. Oh right - you're a liberal. Land theft is a-ok if you're doing it for liberal causes.

[Sava]

BTW, speaking of rich men not making it to heaven...

How would you describe the wealth of the Popes?

I bet not a single one is floating around in the clouds with little harp playing angels. They are all roasting.

(but not actually sadface because evil people suffering for eternity is awesome)

[giblets]

ben on the colonisation of the americas: a boon for the indigenous population (who didn't own the land anyway).

ben on the supreme pontiff losing his princely estates: outrageous!

The church doesn't follow the sermon on the mount... that was intended for people who aren't European /sarcasm

[Ben Kenobi]

How would you describe the wealth of the Popes?

Was it not Judas who argued, "the money could be used to feed the poor?"

And what was Jesus' response? "You will always have the poor, but you will not always have me."

I bet not a single one is floating around in the clouds with little harp playing angels. They are all roasting

You're like the debtor who has been forgiven much yet holds his debts from others. You had a 90k debt wiped out, Sava. You are the rich you despise. .

[Ben Kenobi]

The church doesn't follow the sermon on the mount... that was intended for people who aren't European /sarcasm

I'm sorry, I don't buy the myth that non-white people are only evil because the white man brought it to them.

[giblets]

I'm sorry, I don't buy the myth that non-white people are only evil because the white man brought it to them.

That's cool. I never said "non-white people are only evil because the white man brought it to them." You're stupid.

[Ben Kenobi]

That's cool. I never said "non-white people are only evil because the white man brought it to them." You're stupid.

Cockney did, however. I'm not sure why you're defending a myth cobbled up by the despised Europeans. Oh wait. You hate yourself. Sorry, carry on, sir.

Tell us the just so story about how the white man got his gold.

[DaShi]

Ben can't win real arguments, so he needs fight imaginary ones.

[Sava]

Was it not Judas who argued, "the money could be used to feed the poor?"

And what was Jesus' response? "You will always have the poor, but you will not always have me."



You're like the debtor who has been forgiven much yet holds his debts from others. You had a 90k debt wiped out, Sava. You are the rich you despise. .

If I am where the line for "rich" begins, the whole western world is going to hell.