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  • #91
    How many murders need to occur before the murdering and murdered parties have their gods changed on them?
    Quite a difference from your hyperbole of 'millions of Jews'.

    I expect, "I'm sorry Ben for grossly misrepresenting history."
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    • #92
      Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
      As compared with the Armenian genocide? What you forget is that there were many fewer people in the area back then as there are now. More Jews died in Adana in the 20th century.
      You keep justifying old atrocities with the increased magnitude of new atrocities. Surprise, there are more people alive now so the magnitude of atrocities will generally be increased - if a city is sacked and half of its population is wiped out then that means that fewer people would have died in the older atrocity because fewer people lived in the city.

      Even if "comparable number of deaths caused" were a valid means of determining which religion is more evil, you're still horribly misapplying this reasoning (by your own admission).
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      • #93
        Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
        Quite a difference from your hyperbole of 'millions of Jews'.

        I expect, "I'm sorry Ben for grossly misrepresenting history."
        How many murders need to occur before the murdering and murdered parties have their gods changed on them?

        And I'm not going to argue numbers with you if you're going to pull nonsense like "the Nazis weren't Christian." I'd rather you invent your own numbers and then try to dismiss them as being irrelevant ("what a few thousand murders among friends?")
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        • #94
          Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
          First world war doesn't count as that makes my statement look absurd.

          I don't count Napoleon because he makes my statement look absurd.


          Nobody cares about Latin America.
          thank you for (grudgingly) admitting that you were wrong.
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          • #95
            ok i found it
            Δούκα (1400-62), ο «μέγας δουξ» Λουκάς Νοταράς, ο και «γαμβρός» του αυτοκράτορα αυτοκαλούμενος, έφτασε να πει το (διαβόητο πια): «Καλύτερα να δω καταμεσίς στην Πόλη να βασιλεύει τούρκικο σαρίκι παρά τιάρα λατινική» («Κρειττότερόν εστιν ιδέναι εν μέση τη πόλει φακιόλιον βασιλεύον Τούρκων ή καλύπτραν λατινικήν»

            Megas Doucas 1400-1462 Loukas Notaras
            Kalitera na do katapesis tis Polis na vasileuei to tourkiko sariki para i tiara i latiniki

            It's better that I see inside the city (constantinople) to reign the turkish (muslim) sarik (hat) than the latin (catholic) tiara (??)

            means that catholics were considered (more) savages compared to muslims

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            • #96
              thank you for (grudgingly) admitting that you were wrong.
              Yep, I didn't even consider South America. Besides the primary antagonist of Nappy was Britain, so again not really a Catholic on Catholic war.
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              • #97
                Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                We've been talking about Europe so my first thought was a European war between Catholics. I'd forgotten about Latin America.

                If I clarify that to Europe, I believe I'm correct that the last war where the primary combatants were Catholic was the War of the Austrian Succession.
                Europe didn't have very many Catholic great powers after that point.

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                • #98
                  like "the Nazis weren't Christian."
                  They weren't. Hitler was primarily motivated by paganism. Rosenberg hated Christianity.
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                  • #99
                    Europe didn't have very many Catholic great powers after that point.
                    Aside from Spain, Austria and France, I suppose not.
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                    • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                      Aside from Spain, Austria and France, I suppose not.
                      And you don't include Revolutionary France. So Spain and Austria never fought each other again. Catholics are so peaceful.

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                      • excellent

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                        • Italian independence wars don't count because reasons. Garibaldi was a deist or something.

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                          • i think the most bloody offense a catholic did to another catholic was bumping on him on the road, really

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                            • Originally posted by giblets View Post
                              Italian independence wars don't count because reasons. Garibaldi was a deist or something.
                              nor does italy vs austria in world war 1. after all, what's a million dead between peaceful catholics.
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                              • they died of natural causes

                                (bleeding)

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