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  • "Yes, seriously. Once you release it, it's the world's - the readers as well as the author. The author doesn't have control over what people think of it anymore."

    But he can correct the idiots.
    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
    - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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    • Originally posted by gribbler View Post
      The author can't force you to interpret the book in a way that even vaguely resembles the author's intention, but that doesn't mean your head canon is actually a part of the book. I could insist Frodo and Sam are gay lovers and comb the text for evidence, doesn't make it true.
      Readers can (theoretically) accurately conclude that Frodo and Sam are gay for the same reason they can accurately conclude Frodo and Sam went to the bathroom. A work is more than just the text.
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      • Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
        Readers can (theoretically) accurately conclude that Frodo and Sam are gay for the same reason they can accurately conclude Frodo and Sam went to the bathroom. A work is more than just the text.
        The probability that Tolkien would agree with the latter is a lot higher.

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        • As a writer (and someone who has talked to a lot of writers), I can assure you that I put more into my work than that which I am consciously aware of.
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          • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
            The church wasn't a collection of socialists where everyone had equal authority. The Apostles are all throughout Acts, and they spread the Gospel initially, at Pentecost, and then travelled to all parts of the Church. They had special authority vested in them by Christ.

            You really need to read your New Testament. Special knowledge available to the elect is a heresy.
            I'm not sure why you think I would care what your personal opinion is regarding heresy. If your church tells me one thing today, and another thing tomorrow, which one do you say I should obey, and how is that the Holy Spirit?
            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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            • Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
              As a writer (and someone who has talked to a lot of writers), I can assure you that I put more into my work than that which I am consciously aware of.
              If the author doesn't intend meaning there is no meaning. You might need to look up the word meaning in the dictionary.
              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
              - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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              • I'm not sure why you think I would care what your personal opinion is regarding heresy.
                Because it's not my personal opinion that it's heresy? It's Gnosticism. Condemned since, well.. basically forever. Everyone has equal access to Christ and the Gospel. There is no, 'special knowledge', that only the elect can possess.

                If your church tells me one thing today, and another thing tomorrow, which one do you say I should obey, and how is that the Holy Spirit?
                I suggest obeying Christ and avoiding heresy if at all possible.
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                • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                  So read many different schools of scholarship and decide that way.
                  Reading isn't deciding. Do you know how to decide?
                  I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                  • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                    Of course it doesn't belong to them. The Bible is a living document (if you will), to be interpreted by God's people over and over again - heck, the New Testament was basically a re-interpretation of the Old Testament after the revelation of Jesus.
                    Talk about heresy. You just made this crap up.
                    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                    • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                      Jesus claimed that his ideas were a fulfillment of the Old Testament. Hebrews talks about this - how the sacrifices have been replaced, with the Passover Lamb, who gave his life as a sacrifice for many.
                      He said that He is one with the Father, not an interpretation of the Father.
                      I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                      - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                      • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                        Because it's not my personal opinion that it's heresy? It's Gnosticism. Condemned since, well.. basically forever. Everyone has equal access to Christ and the Gospel. There is no, 'special knowledge', that only the elect can possess.



                        I suggest obeying Christ and avoiding heresy if at all possible.
                        I'm not a gnostic and I don't claim to have special knowledge. I simply disagree with your interpretation of the Bible you idiot.
                        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                        • Oh yeah, Kidicious is PWNing asses and taking names. NoBody cKan stoP the invinciBle KIDICIOUS!
                          The Wizard of AAHZ

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                          • I'm not a gnostic and I don't claim to have special knowledge. I simply disagree with your interpretation of the Bible you idiot.
                            Claiming that there is special knowledge which only the elect possess is heresy, regardless as to whether you claim you possess it or not. Claiming you do possess this puts you in a party with Koresh et al.
                            Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                            "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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                            • I don't think you understand, Ben. Kidicious cKan't Be stoPPed.
                              The Wizard of AAHZ

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                              • Didn't his ex stop him from seeing his kid?

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