what happened to the großrossiya thread

[Sava]

He did ask for proof. And you did just provide your opinion.

[Dr Strangelove]

Two alleged perps have been arrested.

[I AM MOBIUS]

He did ask for proof. And you did just provide your opinion.

This.

And we all know that Oerdin is, more often than not, wrong. So his conspiracy theorist opinions ain't worth ****...

[PLATO]

For all the idiots that said that Crimea was a popular uprising and that it was "the will of the people". Here is Putin admitting to naked aggression planning 4 days before any "uprising" started.

Putin reveals secrets of Russia's Crimea takeover plot

Vladimir Putin has admitted for the first time that the plan to annex Crimea was ordered weeks before the referendum on self-determination.
Crimea was formally absorbed into Russia on 18 March, to international condemnation, after unidentified gunmen took over the peninsula.
Mr Putin said on TV he had ordered work on "returning Crimea" to begin at an all-night meeting on 22 February.
The meeting was called after Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych was ousted.
Speaking last year, Mr Putin had said only that he took his final decision about Crimea after secret, undated opinion polls showed 80% of Crimeans favoured joining Russia.
The findings of these polls were borne out by the outcome of the referendum on 16 March, he told Russian state TV last April.
Workers standing on a crane in front of a mural depicting Russian President Vladimir Putin in a navy uniform, the Kremlin and the Russian flag on the wall of a building in the Crimean city of Sevastopol, 13 January 2015
Mr Putin's image is prominent in Crimea, as seen in this mural in the city of Sevastopol
Vladimir Putin at a Victory Day parade in Sevastopol, Crimea, 9 May 2014
Mr Putin celebrated Victory Day last year with a military parade in Sevastopol
Armed man at Simferopol airport
"Little green men" appeared in Crimea before the referendum
Ukrainian Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych makes a speech to the heads of foreign missions in Kiev, Ukraine, on 4 April 2007
Ukraine's former president Viktor Yanukovych fled Kiev on 22 February 2014
Speaking in a forthcoming Russian TV documentary, Mr Putin said a meeting with officials had been held on 22-23 February to plan the rescue of Ukraine's deposed president.
"I invited the leaders of our special services and the defence ministry to the Kremlin and set them the task of saving the life of the president of Ukraine, who would simply have been liquidated," he said.
"We finished about seven in the morning. When we were parting, I told all my colleagues, 'We are forced to begin the work to bring Crimea back into Russia'."

On 27 February, unidentified armed men seized the local parliament and local government buildings in Crimea, raising the Russian flag.
Among them appeared to be regular soldiers without military insignia, who were dubbed the "little green men".
Mr Putin subsequently admitted deploying troops on the peninsula to "stand behind Crimea's self-defence forces".

Timeline: How Crimea was annexed

22 February, former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych flees Kiev after violent protests
23 February, Russian President Vladimir Putin plans to rescue Mr Yanukovych and annexe Crimea
27 February, pro-Russian gunmen seize Crimea's parliament and other key buildings
28 February, unidentified soldiers in combat fatigues occupy two airports in Crimea
1 March, Russian parliament approves Mr Putin's request to use force in Ukraine
16 March, 97% of voters in Crimea agree to join Russia
18 March, Mr Putin signs a bill absorbing Crimea into the Russian Federation

Ukraine crisis: Timeline

The formal annexation of Crimea sparked unrest in eastern Ukraine on 7 April, when pro-Russian protesters occupied government buildings in Donetsk, Luhansk and Kharkiv demanding independence.
A month later, pro-Russian separatists in Donetsk and Luhansk declared independence from Ukraine after unrecognised referendums.
Ukraine responded by launching an "anti-terrorist operation" against them and the region became engulfed in a conflict which has cost at least 6,000 lives and driven more than a million people from their homes, according to the UN.
The Ukrainian government, Western leaders and Nato say there is clear evidence that Russia is helping the separatists with heavy weapons and soldiers. Independent experts echo that accusation.
Moscow denies it, insisting that any Russians serving with the rebels are "volunteers".
Full details of Mr Yanukovych's escape from Ukraine are unclear although Mr Putin spoke of preparations to evacuate him from Donetsk.
"Heavy machine guns were placed there, so as not to waste time talking," he added, with preparations made by land, sea and air.
The documentary, which Russian TV says will be broadcast soon, was made by Andrei Kondrashov, a journalist with state-run channel Rossiya-1.

http://m.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31796226

[Dinner]

Two alleged perps have been arrested.

It seems odd that the alledges gunman blew himself up while the other two are Chechens. The opposition was pretty out spoken against the operation in Chechnya and both the Chechens and the opposition hate Putin so why would they assassinate the head of the opposition? Also, it was right outside the Kremlin in the fsb's control area with cameras every where yet the camera in question just happened to stop working right before the shooting and a giant truck was parked blocking a second camera?

So many questions.

[I AM MOBIUS]

Yes.

So many questions.

But it doesn't equate to:

Putin had him assassinated.

I ask again, where is your proof?

Not to mention that you haven't even provided links corroborating your post above...

[Sava]

Putin is appairuntly on an assissination spree.

Shocking canine news out of England today: Jagger, the beloved three-year-old Irish setter who took top prize at this year's Crufts Dog Show in Birmingham, died Friday after being fed a steak laced with poison, possibly at the show.

http://gawker.com/the-crufts-killer-prized-pooch-murdered-with-poisoned-1690278113

A toxicology report on Jagger, also known by his pedigree name, Thendara Satisfaction, is expected to be released next week. A Scottish terrier from Russia won Crufts Best in Show Sunday.

[I AM MOBIUS]

That ****ing Putin!

[I AM MOBIUS]

Scale of Russian military intervention in Ukraine revealed

Moscow’s involvement in conflict has been so intense and on such a scale that strain on its military is starting to show, says report

I'm sure Putin will be admitting all this in due course as per above - I don't think his ego can help it!

There have been increasing reports of conscripts having been pressganged or tricked into taking part in a covert war in Ukraine, and the Rusi report says enforcer units have been deployed to stop them fleeing the frontlines. It says these “barrier squads”, or anti-retreat troops, are drawn from the interior ministry’s Dzerzhinskiy division.

Good to see that the NKVD's methods from WWII have been reinstated. Nice touch!

[Dinner]

http://m.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31829723

So... One suspect supposedly blew himself up in police custody (but no one was hurt other than the guy who was blown up, how lucky) while another suspect says he was tortured into making a false confession just to stop the torture.

[I AM MOBIUS]

Yeah, but you still haven't proved the proof to your claim that Putin personally had him assassinated.

[I AM MOBIUS]

A more likely conspiracy theory would be someone like Ramzan Kadyrov wanting to toady up to Putin and acting on his own initiative...

[pchang]

When the King asks, "Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?", who then is responsible for the death of Thomas Becket?

[I AM MOBIUS]

Exactly my point!

[pchang]

I would hold both the knights and the King responsible.