what happened to the großrossiya thread

[I AM MOBIUS]

MOBIUS has long wanted to suck Putin's **** or at least that is what I am left believing give. How he usually defends him.

I'm not defending him, you moron. All I'm saying is that I understand his paranoia and that nothing is ever black and white - All he's doing is protecting his interests like any ex-KGB officer brought up during the Cold War would do. You think the West's hands are clean in all this!?

Of course he's created a situation where his supporters can act with impunity, but that doesn't mean he personally gave the orders. Frankly I have him down as a little more clever than that, as Nemtsov's death has likely caused him as many problems as it solved.

But you can't go round accusing someone of doing something without proof, as you have done.

Even PLATO's fire analogy: there's plenty of things it could be from his description that aren't fire

[Dinner]

http://www.pri.org/stories/2015-03-17/growing-doubts-chechens-behind-nemtsov-assassination

The government's claim that Chechens did the assassination seems to be falling apart. Putin's cronies claim they killed Putin's enemy because he voiced support for Charlie Hebdo but the fall guy Putin picked out is an atheist and liberal so it isn't very believable that he killed someone over a religion he vocally didn't even believe in.

There is pretty much only one believable scenario left and that is someone in the government did it. Not surprisingly, these would also be the same people who could remove the security agents from the street who were supposed to be there as it was right in front of the Kremlin and make sure the video cameras suddenly stopped working right before the shooting.

[PLATO]

http://www.pri.org/stories/2015-03-1...-assassination

The government's claim that Chechens did the assassination seems to be falling apart. Putin's cronies claim they killed Putin's enemy because he voiced support for Charlie Hebdo but the fall guy Putin picked out is an atheist and liberal so it isn't very believable that he killed someone over a religion he vocally didn't even believe in.

There is pretty much only one believable scenario left and that is someone in the government did it. Not surprisingly, these would also be the same people who could remove the security agents from the street who were supposed to be there as it was right in front of the Kremlin and make sure the video cameras suddenly stopped working right before the shooting.

Yes, of course. More smoke...more heat...more red glow. But where is the damn proof!

Quacks like a duck...walks like a duck...looks like a duck...swims like a duck. But without a freakin DNA sample...THERE IS NO PROOF!

It should be clear to all with an IQ above 50 that Putin has become a real threat to world peace. It would not take but just a few miscalculations and real war could become a real possibility.

I know that a lot of folks around here are not Reagan fans, but "Peace through Strength" seems to be what Russia understands from the West.

[PLATO]

Even PLATO's fire analogy: there's plenty of things it could be from his description that aren't fire

Name 5

[N35t0r]

It should be clear to all with an IQ above 50 that Putin has become a real threat to world peace. It would not take but just a few miscalculations and real war could become a real possibility.

Yeah, they're almost reaching US levels

[pchang]

If the US was really that badass, thugs like ISIS and Putin would be too afraid to cross us.

[C0ckney]

Yeah, they're almost reaching US levels

they're not close to that yet.

[Pedotard]

I agree with the thread title. Russia is gross.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Meanwhile, in completely coincidental news:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32009480

The younger son of Ukraine's former President Viktor Yanukovych has drowned in Lake Baikal in Russia, reports say.

Ukrainian MP Nestor Shufrych confirmed to the BBC the death of the ex-leader's son, who was also called Viktor.

Earlier Russian and Ukrainian media reports said he died after his vehicle fell through ice on Lake Baikal in the south of the Russian region of Siberia.

[...]

The death of Viktor Yanukovych Jr is the latest of several involving people with ties to the former president.

Oleksandr Peklushenko, a former regional governor, was found dead in Ukraine earlier this month in what authorities said appeared to be a suicide.

Five other officials also died in mysterious circumstances this year.

[Proteus_MST]

Peaceful Russia feels threatened by danish aggression

Russia has gone on the offensive in the Baltic, warning Denmark that if it joins Nato’s missile defence shield, its navy will be a legitimate target for a Russian nuclear attack.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/denmark/11487509/Russia-warns-Denmark-its-warships-could-become-nuclear-targets.html

Absolutely understandable that a peaceful state like Russia is opposed to aggressors like denmark who aggressively initiate plans to get protected from russian missiles

[I AM MOBIUS]

Invisible army: the story of a Russian soldier sent to fight in Ukraine

[Bereta_Eder]

Believing off the bat that Putin, in his apex of power, had someone assasssinated is assasine.
And no, he's not necessarily the bad guy (only if compared to the US chickenhawks pr!cks).
He did elevate the standard of living after the cleptocratic alcoholic western darling called yelstin.
So no, not all bad not by a long shot.

Now **** off back to washington or something.

[Bereta_Eder]

about the danish ships and the antimissile system designed to protect us against... iran?

(the intro is a bit far out)

[Bereta_Eder]

Meanwhile now approximatively half of the european states are adamant against sanctions on Russia.
Traitors

[PLATO]

Meanwhile now approximatively half of the european states are adamant against sanctions on Russia.
Traitors

Oh...I was wondering why they voted to extend them at the last meeting.