Yet another damn terrorist attack

[N35t0r]

I know he hasn't posted in ages, and I have no idea if he lived near Paris, but what about Spiffor? (DAVOUT, too, was a regular French poster way back when, iirc.)

I haven't spoken to spiff in a long time, but his parents used to live in the suburbs. I hope they are OK.

[Bereta_Eder]

After Paris Attacks, Poland Says It Will No Longer Participate in EU’s Refugee Plan

Poland's new ultra conservative gov's anti-rusianism is only matched by its virulent anti-germanism.

The whole eastern europe didn't want refugees (they are much alike you and dinner) long before the events in paris.
They will also be cut off all development aid.

[Bereta_Eder]

Of course Poland and the whole eastern europe is right to be afraid of muslims.


That long occupation poland had in algeria, their outstanding participation against jihadists now that UK and US take the cazzo in the ass, their vast 2nd generation disenfranchised utterly poor (but not uneducated thanks to free public education) french citizens who come from their former colonies.


I think slovenia also should ban them same history

[Bereta_Eder]

the thing is US/Uk have ****ed up those countries from the middle east to get oil and they (especially US) are too far away to face the backlash of their criminal actions.
Some stupid european elites gave their blessing

[giblets]

Thanks to Russia for supplying the Balkans with millions of AK-47's

[dannubis]

you see that is exactly the sort of scaremongering that one has come to expect from the far-right.

the EU commission estimates that around 3 million migrants will come to the EU by 2017. That's 0.4% of the EU's population, or one for every two hundred and fifty EU residents. i think the world's largest economic area can handle it.

Those 3 million immigrants will largely end up in the already poorer quartiers of the major urban areas without any real chance of a "better life" because of lack of education. That is a bit more than 0.4% of the LOCAL population.
Not that this will matter to you since you are not interested in a discussion. I predict you will ignore this point, throw around some insults and then claim everybody else is stupid.

[NICE MOBIUS]

Not that this will matter to you since you are not interested in a discussion. I predict you will ignore this point, throw around some insults and then claim everybody else is stupid.

So get in there first, eh?

[NICE MOBIUS]

Those 3 million immigrants will largely end up in the already poorer quartiers of the major urban areas without any real chance of a "better life" because of lack of education. That is a bit more than 0.4% of the LOCAL population.

IS is winning, because it is creating the polarisation and chaos it requires for self-perpetuation.

One of the most incredible ironies of the entire refugee crisis is that Europe as a whole actually NEEDS the refugees for its very future economic survival! The EU has an ageing and unsustainable demographic.

Welcoming the refugees with open arms should be a win-win situation, but instead IS has stirred up the rhetoric of hateful nationalism in those that should know better. I see it on this board - in this very thread - and I see it among some of my facebook friends...

[dannubis]

So get in there first, eh?

Yes

[Egbert]

but instead IS has stirred up the rhetoric of hateful nationalism .

That does appear to be so.

[dannubis]

IS is winning, because it is creating the polarisation and chaos it requires for self-perpetuation.

One of the most incredible ironies of the entire refugee crisis is that Europe as a whole actually NEEDS the refugees for its very future economic survival! The EU has an ageing and unsustainable demographic.

Welcoming the refugees with open arms should be a win-win situation, but instead IS has stirred up the rhetoric of hateful nationalism in those that should know better. I see it on this board - in this very thread - and I see it among some of my facebook friends...

From what I have seen, again almost all attackers were born and raised inside Europe. So the refugees have currently very little to do with it. It will be a pity to see that those people will have to face the consequences of an ideology they ran away from in the first place.

However, if we don't make sure that we offer the new immigrants a real chance at building their lives, in 20 years time, the children of the refugees will be only adding to the current problems. And the generalzing comment I was reacting to will exactly do just that: letting too much uneducated/unprepared people in at once, ignoring the problems under the dogma of the multicultural experiment, and generate the future disemfranchised generation of hooligans (by lack of a better word).

[Bereta_Eder]

And how exactly are you/we doing that?

By building artificial cities in the middle of nowhere or turning molembeck into a lawless no future cement ridden hellhole?

The refugees are the same like some villagers that came down from their villages to the big urban centers and little by little they were absorbed.

What needs to be done is AGAIN a reditribution of wealth in order for the divergence of richness not to shred societies ashader.
Simple.

That will take at least one factor out of the equation.

[dannubis]

Funny you should mention Molembeek...
50 years of socialist rule...

[Bereta_Eder]

Oh man.
You remind me of myself when I have run out of arguments.

[dannubis]

You didn't make an argument. You went off on your usual tangent. I merely obliged.