Well done to the Supreme Court.

[-Jrabbit]

I have never seen a corporation attending Mass.

[My Wife Hates CIV]

god and the bible are fluff... just things to be used by a few power hungry people who want to oppress others.

believe what I say - or die - in the name of god.

wow

[Ben Kenobi]

I have never seen a corporation attending Mass.

Corporation = corpus = body of believers.

[Elok]

How about the practical example of a significant number of pregnancies naturally aborting?

People get struck by lightning, too; be a dear and shove a fork in the closest electrical socket, would you? God demands it, apparently.

[Dauphin]

Hosea 9:11-16

[My Wife Hates CIV]

hmmm... you can really hit a nerve with religion with some folks. there is a reason for that... think about it.

[MrFun]

It wasn't an economic decision. They refused to compromise their morals at the behest of the government.

Compromise morals? You mean like how Hobby Lobby does business with China, where abortions are mandatory, and where people work for almost no wages? Is that what you're talking about?

[Ben Kenobi]

Compromise morals? You mean like how Hobby Lobby does business with China, where abortions are mandatory, and where people work for almost no wages? Is that what you're talking about?

I still enjoy the irony of a gay person fighting for contraception.

[N35t0r]

I still enjoy the irony of a single male fighting for marriage and against abortion.

[GePap]

Corporation = corpus = body of believers.

It's sad you actually believe this nonsense.

[GePap]

The notion that a legal construct whose main aim is to create a legal divorce in terms of liability between an owner and an enterprise should have the same rights as a actual material human being (ie. a human being who exists regardless of the legal system) is one of those wonderful abstractions that show how utter idiocy can be disguised as some form of wisdom.

[DinoDoc]

Compromise morals? You mean like how Hobby Lobby does business with China, where abortions are mandatory, and where people work for almost no wages? Is that what you're talking about?

Are you an idiot? The point here regardless of your stupid rants is that the government under its own rules lacked the authority to force the company's owners to violate their beliefs in this instance.

[Elok]

RE: the 401(K) thing, which I know little about, I got to this page from Wiki. I'd imagine that, as it's Forbes, their impression of how the system works is pretty accurate, but comments from more knowledgeable posters would be welcome.

401(k) plans are directed and invested by employees, not by employers. It’s the Hobby Lobby employees that would be disenfranchised by the twisted logic employed by Redden and Ungar here. They are the ones–not their bosses–who choose which mutual funds to invest in. This is true both of the employee’s elective deferral and the employer’s match.

The menu of choices is primarily provided not by the Hobby Lobby employers, but by the 401(k) plan administrator, who helps select a wide menu of mutual fund (and, increasingly, exchange traded fund) choices so that the fiduciary obligations of the plan are met.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanellis/2014/07/01/hobby-lobby-owners-can-have-a-401k-and-first-amendment-rights/

EDIT: I should note that the MJ author criticized in the piece offers several pointed rebuttals in the comments section. They're more technical than the article, so I can't tell WTF he's talking about, but they're there if anybody else can.

[kentonio]

People get struck by lightning, too; be a dear and shove a fork in the closest electrical socket, would you? God demands it, apparently.

Ah so it happens (a lot) naturally in nature, but it's completely immoral because.. 'god says so'?

[Elok]

Honestly, this crap makes my eyes glaze over, but maybe this is relevant too. Basically, she says HL is part of a plan shared with multiple other employers, and has no power to direct how the money is spent. They could switch over to another plan, but she also notes that about $300k, total, is getting invested in IUDs and Plan B. If they switched over to the "ethical" plan anyway (she claims), they would be getting a grossly suboptimal return on their employees' investments, and (if I'm reading her correctly) expose themselves to legal liability on that count. I don't really understand this stuff at all, so take this with a grain of salt.