Well done to the Supreme Court.

[The Mad Monk]

even when i happen to be a cisgender biological male?

Especially then.

[Sava]

i always think cisgender is something compsci geeks made up

[Hauldren Collider]

sounds like a D&D monster adjective or something doesn't it?

[Dauphin]

It seems that way to you because you're a paranoid ******. Nobody looks at a list of possible mutual funds and says "I'll pick the one that sells things that are against my religion." Instead you pick the "Conservative Value Fund" or the "Emerging Markets Growth Fund." Assuming that you dial down into the list of companies in the fund, you still probably don't know what they sell or do. There could be dozens of companies, few of which would be household names. Hobby Lobby's owners are not stock pickers, they're busy running a company with thousands of employees. There's no reason to believe that they even knew about the moral contradiction you find so distasteful.

Church of England got in bother for investing in a fund that had sub holding in a pay day lender. News was revealed shortly after it had railed against the immorality of the predatory practice.

A defence against it is to invest in 'ethical funds'.

[Imran Siddiqui]

If corporations can assert religious rights, then what would stop them from claiming exemption from taxes, just as churches do?

In addition to TMM's quite proper response, you do realize that churches get tax exemption by the nature of being a non-profit organization and that ALL non-profit organizations (such as the ACLU or Human Rights Campaign) are exempt from taxes on that basis as well, right?

[Dinner]

FULL STOP.

they're willing to pay for the other sixteen forms of birth control?

What DD is refusing to acknowledge is that there are numerous other valid reasons birth control pills can be used to treat. Hobby Lobby is blanket refusing to provide said medical treatment for any reason what so ever so, no, it isn't just about birth control. DD knows this though and that's why he keeps glossing over the issue and pretending not to understand.

[Dinner]

It seems that way to you because you're a paranoid ******. Nobody looks at a list of possible mutual funds and says "I'll pick the one that sells things that are against my religion." Instead you pick the "Conservative Value Fund" or the "Emerging Markets Growth Fund." Assuming that you dial down into the list of companies in the fund, you still probably don't know what they sell or do. There could be dozens of companies, few of which would be household names. Hobby Lobby's owners are not stock pickers, they're busy running a company with thousands of employees. There's no reason to believe that they even knew about the moral contradiction you find so distasteful.

Someone here is being a **** but is not me. THEY picked those mutual funds, no one forced them, and has been repeatedly pointed out there are a TON of financial specialists out there whose total business is helping people pick investment plans while maintaining divestment requirements due to moral or religious reasons. Hobby Lobby, and the other lying religious hypocrites, could opt to do this but they don't because they, in actuality, just don't really give a **** about the matter and they're just using religion as their smoke screen. This was amply proven as they DID cover those very forms of contraception in the past but suddenly changed their minds simply because they hate that black guy in charge.

[Sava]

sounds like a D&D monster adjective or something doesn't it?

[Imran Siddiqui]

What DD is refusing to acknowledge is that there are numerous other valid reasons birth control pills can be used to treat.

I guess it's a good thing that Hobby Lobby isn't refusing to cover birth control pills.

[ColdWizard]

i always think cisgender is something compsci geeks made up

It's the result of a secret ritual undergone by those seeking high level Cisco certifications.

[DinoDoc]

I guess it's a good thing that Hobby Lobby isn't refusing to cover birth control pills.

I've begged him repeatedly to stop being such a lying sack of crap.

[MrFun]

Interesting. Back in 1968, a restaurant owner tried using "religious freedom" to deny blacks service.

[The Mad Monk]

Good thing that's not happening here, then.

[Sava]

*than

[The Mad Monk]

...than what?