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  • Originally posted by self biased View Post
    http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2014...-other-problem

    does this actually work like they say it does? also, i apologize for posting a mother jones article.
    I dont think it does. In closely held corps, such as this decision pertains to, the "corporate veil" can be pierced easily enough if the reasons are egregious enough.
    No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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    • Why should a business owner be allowed to not follow the law?

      I've not seen a single compelling argument made for this.
      To us, it is the BEAST.

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      • Originally posted by Sava View Post
        Why should a business owner be allowed to not follow the law?

        I've not seen a single compelling argument made for this.
        The Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993
        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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        • Why should a business owner be allowed to not follow the law?
          The constitution is more important than any mandate - employers have constitutional rights too. This includes the right to practice their religion.
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          • I didn't bother reading this. I asked why, not how. Also, we've already established that you don't care about the rule of law and are willing to ignore it when you feel like it. So don't bother.

            Bigotry is not a compelling argument.

            As a Christian, I reject the notion that this has anything to do with religion.

            Here's what these assholes are really after:

            This week, in the Hobby Lobby case, the Supreme Court ruled that a religious employer could not be required to provide employees with certain types of contraception. That decision is beginning to reverberate: A group of faith leaders is urging the Obama administration to include a religious exemption in a forthcoming LGBT anti-discrimination action.


            Nope. Sorry.

            I'm glad these dip****s are marginalizing themselves.

            America doesn't want you. Get the fuck out.
            To us, it is the BEAST.

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            • Originally posted by Sava View Post
              I didn't bother reading this. I asked why, not how.
              Because America.
              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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              • So . . . in order to save funds, they refused to cover just four of the twenty types of birth control (and not the most expensive or commonly-used types, either), then dragged it up to the SC? How exactly does the cost/benefit analysis work on that? How many damned IUDs and morning-after pills will they have to avoid paying for to defray their legal costs?
                For Hobby Lobby, cost/benefit is negative, but you have to consider the fact that it's more than just about Hobby Lobby. There are many others who's livelihoods are at stake that were willing to assist Hobby Lobby pursue this case. There are many others who, after the case having been ruled in their favor have also assisted Hobby Lobby.

                Also, you have to consider their profile and market penetration all of which is massively up. So, I think there's a case for saying that long term, this would be a wash, or even beneficial to their bottom line.
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                • As a Christian, I reject the notion that this has anything to do with religion.
                  Do you believe that Christianity teaches abortion is wrong?
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                  • Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                    Because America.
                    To us, it is the BEAST.

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                    • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                      Do you believe that Christianity teaches abortion is wrong?
                      No.
                      Because it doesn't.

                      Abortion is a modern issue. If anything, God is for abortion.

                      Show me a bible verse that specifically forbids the termination of an unwanted pregnancy.
                      To us, it is the BEAST.

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                      • Originally posted by Sava View Post
                        For a more serious answer: The Religious Freedom Restoration Act and complicity in sin
                        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                        • Exodus 21

                          22"If men struggle with each other and strike a woman with child so that she gives birth prematurely, yet there is no injury, he shall surely be fined as the woman's husband may demand of him, and he shall pay as the judges decide. 23"But if there is any further injury, then you shall appoint as a penalty life for life, 24eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,…
                          No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                          • Originally posted by Sava View Post
                            If anything, God is for abortion.

                            Show me a bible verse that specifically forbids the termination of an unwanted pregnancy.
                            Show us the bible verse where you get the idea that God is for abortion.
                            John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                            • Originally posted by Felch View Post
                              Show us the bible verse where you get the idea that God is for abortion.
                              How about the practical example of a significant number of pregnancies naturally aborting?

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                              • How about the practical example of a significant number of pregnancies naturally aborting?
                                That's like arguing murdering people is ok because people are just gonna die anyways.
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