The Catholic Church is definitely not to blame for this!

[Sava]

Uh, maybe Moby's rather 'special', but this has nothing to do with pedophilia. I suggest if you don't want to be regarded as the boy who cried wolf, you should cry when there are wolves around. This makes you look like someone who reflexively cries 'pedophile' whenever you hear 'Catholic church'.

You've never defended the Catholic Church from such accusations?

Is this your final answer?

[Ben Kenobi]

THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT ABORTION.

Unwanted pregnancy -- truly a gift from God!

It's a paradox! A thread started, distinctly, to troll about Abortion, unsurprisingly, ends up discussing the issue.

[Ben Kenobi]

I referred to Gosnell as a murderer. That should have been sufficient evidence that I do not support him in any way (and I do not). I take your associating my name with him as deliberately slanderous.

Oh goody. That sides with all the other slanderous things that have been said about me in your thread.

[Ben Kenobi]

You've never defended the Catholic Church from such accusations?

Are you stating there's allegations of pedophilia here? Where? It's not in any of the articles cited in the OP.

Again, if you don't want to leave the impression that you're the boy crying wolf, cry when there's actually wolves.

[Ben Kenobi]

Prove it.

You have evidence then to substantiate your slander? No? What a shame.

[Sava]

Are you stating there's allegations of pedophilia here? Where? It's not in any of the articles cited in the OP.

Again, if you don't want to leave the impression that you're the boy crying wolf, cry when there's actually wolves.

Do you think you're being clever? I'm trying to understand why you deflect. Is it a learning disability?

[Sava]

You have evidence then to substantiate your slander? No? What a shame.

It would be libel, if anything. How is asking for proof tantamount to "slander"?

[Ben Kenobi]

Do you think you're being clever? I'm trying to understand why you deflect. Is it a learning disability?

What is there to deflect? You're bleating 'pedophilia' on command.

[Ben Kenobi]

It would be libel, if anything. How is asking for proof tantamount to "slander"?

That's not how the law works. You have to prove your unsubstantiated allegations. Good luck, all I can say.

[-Jrabbit]

It's a paradox! A thread started, distinctly, to troll about Abortion, unsurprisingly, ends up discussing the issue.

THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT ABORTION.

These were Catholic girls who got pregnant and were shunned by their families. They went to the church-run home. While some may have miscarried, none of the coverage of this tragic situation so much as mentioned abortion as the source of the 796 Catholic bodies found on site in a mass grave.

Apparently you are incapable of discussing the contents of the OP and its links without trying to make it an abortion thread.

THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT ABORTION.

[Sava]

hey Jrab, is this thread about abortion?

[Ben Kenobi]

Sorry JR. You were trolling about unwanted pregnancy. What did you expect?

[-Jrabbit]

See my Post 11 again. We're done here.

[Berzerker]

Berz has already called to shut down the Catholic church entirely.

I think you said abortion clinics should be shut down based on how they dispose of bodies, so I asked if the same standard applies to the Church. You didn't answer.

Rather than permitting the Catholic church to work at saving the lives of many children at the loss of some, you're saying you'd prefer we did nothing and let them all die. Who was paying for all these homes, Ming? Who was paying to look after these mothers and these children? There were over 14 thousand children, that - went on to have a life because of what these homes did.

Does that not count for anything in your book? All the work that the nuns did to preserve life and to shelter these children through the years?

Why don't we see an article from one of the children who grew up and went on to succeed, Ming?

I was good on Sunday, Lord

All that can be done without the Catholic Church acting as middle man

It seems quite simply that many here believe it's no big deal if it's not the Catholic church. Berz gave this position, which indicates to me this is just prejudice and nothing more. You don't need facts for that.

Abortion clinics dont have big ceremonies in vast temples of wealth trying to convince me they're righteous

Is rape ok when it doesn't involve the Catholic church?

while they're hiding rapists.

No I do not, nor have I ever engaged in any such behavior with any of my students at any time.

Wont be long before one of them hot young catholic girls wants to do the teacher

[Ben Kenobi]

I think you said abortion clinics should be shut down based on how they dispose of bodies, so I asked if the same standard applies to the Church. You didn't answer.

I said if we are seriously concerned about providing a Christian burial, then yes, this would be the response. And yes - this place is closed down now, Berz. Why not the clinics?

All that can be done without the Catholic Church acting as middle man

Sure. Why isn't it? That's part of my point. If the world of today is so welcoming to these women, why are there so many abortion clinics out there?

Abortion clinics dont have big ceremonies in vast temples of wealth trying to convince me they're righteous

Most of them receive public funds, Berz. So your money is going to them.