Please don't take this too seriously.

[Bereta_Eder]

And yet a second of it is more deep and worthwhile than a year of someone else's life, one could say and not be tottaly wrong.

[Al B. Sure!]

No, why should I give you these details? What value does that have for me?

You don't need to tell me. You need to telll yourself

[Bereta_Eder]

Producing meat for the army grinder is easy Al B. ( as someone said)

[Al B. Sure!]

And yet a second of it is more deep and worthwhile than a year of someone else's life, one could say and not be tottaly wrong.

Except for John Malkovich's, you cannot live someone else's life. Only your own.

[Lorizael]

You don't need to tell me. You need to telll yourself

I realized quite a long time ago that needing goals was necessary for my happiness. It is not, however, sufficient.

[Bereta_Eder]

Except for John Malkovich's, you cannot live someone else's life. Only your own.

Live your own then and be happy (in your lobotomized world in my opinion but I also don't shave from time to time) and leave others live their own.

[Al B. Sure!]

I realized quite a long time ago that needing goals was necessary for my happiness. It is not, however, sufficient.

What is stopping you from getting a haircut, shaving, and ironing your clothes right now? What is stopping you from doing some pushups and running around the block. Do it for a few days just for ****s and giggles and who knows how you will feel

[The Mad Monk]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pretending that I know what other people feel is a cognitive error on my part. But I do know what other people do. Other people hold down their jobs and have relationships and don't require coddling. I do. Maybe they are suffering inside. But at least they're ****ing keeping it inside. At least they're not so ****ed up that they can't appear civilized. My glasses are held together with wire from a spiral notebook and I haven't gotten a haircut in months and I haven't shaved in weeks and my clothes are a wrinkled mess and I need to lose weight and there are bags under my eyes because I don't sleep and... yeah. At least my possibly suffering friends can keep up appearances.

Then get a haircut and shave. That's two less things to hate yourself over.

[Lorizael]

What is stopping you from getting a haircut, shaving, and ironing your clothes right now? What is stopping you from doing some pushups and running around the block.

My brain. I can do those things, but summoning the effort to is hard.

When I got home from work, I cleaned up my desk, which was littered with 26 cans/bottles of Mountain Dew, a plate crusted with the two-week old remains of a pizza, and a fork and spoon that had been reused for a variety of meals. Doing that was exhausting in a way that has absolutely nothing at all to do with me being out of shape. That's what depression is about, Speer--having so little that energy that maintaining a clean living space becomes a daunting task that you can literally fail. Doing more than that is even harder still.

[Bereta_Eder]

Hey I'm sorry if I seemed too aggresive.
I've been to the army and loved (kind of) the "bow down to the cross and kill" mentality. The discipline mentality that is.
However, that's what's great about democracy, no hierarchy, each worth is measured by himself etc
However, discipline, Al b. style can be beneficial, no objections to that.

[The Mad Monk]

Can you be serious and post specific, measurable, achievable, relevant, and time-bound goals and your courses of action to achieve them?

Not everyone can do this. Whenever I tried, for example, my urge to procrastinate would look at it and say, "oh! a challenge!"

Timetables are not for everyone.

[The Mad Monk]

My brain. I can do those things, but summoning the effort to is hard.

When I got home from work, I cleaned up my desk, which was littered with 26 cans/bottles of Mountain Dew, a plate crusted with the two-week old remains of a pizza, and a fork and spoon that had been reused for a variety of meals. Doing that was exhausting in a way that has absolutely nothing at all to do with me being out of shape. That's what depression is about, Speer--having so little that energy that maintaining a clean living space becomes a daunting task that you can literally fail. Doing more than that is even harder still.

You did that. Be happy in that. Tomorrow, do something else. It's like there's a team of horses pulling you back, I know. Take satisfaction in these little victories.

[Sava]

Then you are deluded.

I can't think of a single example that isn't.

Name one.

[Aeson]

Bereta elder, So what do you think about symbols like wearing wrinkled clothing, not shaving in weeks, not having a haircut in months, and wearing spiral notebook glasses? What do those symbols say?

That the person is too absorbed in their work to waste time on non-essential trivial tasks.

Spoiler:

not saying what that work is ...

[Sava]

hey when you do lots of trivial tasks

you can be talked into running into gunfire

someones gotta do it and i'd rather it be speer

speer