Backwoods Hillbilly Removed From Show About Backwoods Hillbillies For Being A Backwoods Hillbilly.

[Imran Siddiqui]

bummer, we got a good sports forum

Eh, we really don't. I post about sports at another forum. Poly's sports forum basically posts about American football and mostly Chicago Bears football at that.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Oh, and no one but ****ing morons believe Jesus was actually born on December 25th.

Also, yes, there is nothing saying that Jesus actually hit anyone when He drove the moneychangers from the temple. The driving of the money changers is told in all 4 Gospels and only John mentions the scourge - makes me think that the scourge was used to scare the money changers, but not whip them (otherwise the other Gospels would speak of that instead of just saying Jesus cast the money changers out).

*drops mic

[SlowwHand]

Eh, we really don't. I post about sports at another forum. Poly's sports forum basically posts about American football and mostly Chicago Bears football at that.

We know as a Sports Moderator that it's kind of a token thing. BTW, if you want to talk about soccer, refer to soccer.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Btw, Slow, did you realize there hasn't been a single post on Peyton Manning's record setting 51st TD? Is that the sign of a "good" or even a "decent" sports forum?

[Ben Kenobi]

Oh, and no one but ****ing morons believe Jesus was actually born on December 25th.

Tertullian is a moron?

Also, yes, there is nothing saying that Jesus actually hit anyone when He drove the moneychangers from the temple. The driving of the money changers is told in all 4 Gospels and only John mentions the scourge - makes me think that the scourge was used to scare the money changers, but not whip them (otherwise the other Gospels would speak of that instead of just saying Jesus cast the money changers out).

There's nothing in there to suggest that Jesus refrained from using the scourge.

[SlowwHand]

Btw, Slow, did you realize there hasn't been a single post on Peyton Manning's record setting 51st TD? Is that the sign of a "good" or even a "decent" sports forum?

Does that include you not starting one? Maybe no one cared enough about it. Well, obviously no one did. In the overall scheme of things, what does it matter?

[Ming]

I know people who have won cases that were eventually overturned after losing them and then winning on appeal

As usual, you response has nothing to do with the actual point.
A&E would NOT lose a lawsuit filed by him...
PUT UP OR SHUT UP!

How does one parse the divide between religion and anti-gay when the comments are part of his religion and he quotes the bible? I can't see it. Can't be done.

You moron, not EVERYTHING HE SAID was a quote from the bible. So YES, IT CAN BE DONE!

Self-inflicted what? He's the big, big winner here. Worst case, A+E drops them, they move to another network. Now he's a household name.

No he's not. You say "they" more to another network... THEY can't... THEY are still under contract. Only He was "suspended"

I'm just saying, if it were to be taken to litigation - Robertson would win.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... No, he wouldn't, and that's the opinion of leading Media Lawyers, not some smuck that doesn't have a law degree.

From the standpoint of breach of contract it's a significant change. A+E didn't have to approve of the interview. They could have shut it down, as I doubt Phil would have conducted the interview without permission. I haven't seen A+E suggest anything that the interview was given without their permission. I could see them suspending them if he had - but that's not their argument. They are arguing content is justification for suspension. Which opens up a giant legal can of worms, given that Phil's getting paid partly, to express his religion in public. I don't see how you can argue that 'sanitizing religion is ok', that you can only express parts of your religion and not others.

Again, you moron... he isn't getting nailed for quoting the bible. He's getting nailed for other comments.

This case would have significant consequences if it were taken to litigation. However, I doubt that this will happen.

No it wouldn't have significant consequences except for the lawyers making money, because he wouldn't win.

People have been sued under Section 13 in Canada - and eventually the folks charged under section 13 for 'hate crimes', and dismissed, have eventually been reinstated or had the bar on their employment rescinded. But it took years. I know some of these folks.

And as usual, your comments have absolutely NOTHING to do with this case here. And this isn't a "hate crime"... it's a morals contract where the Network holds all the cards.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Seems to me the Robertsons hold all the cards. No lawsuit will ever come out of this, thats just an idiotic proposition. But the Robertsons have no need to deal with A&E as they have plenty of money and this latest controversy likely will make them even more popular with their own following. A&E needs them. If A&E were so stupid to invoke breach of contract against the Robertsons they essentially will have destroyed any remaining following on their most popular show.

[Ming]

"The "Robertsons" don't hold all the cards. Only Phil has been placed on "Indefinite Hiatus" (which could only last a short time since A&E likes money). The rest of the Robertsons are under contract and are FORCED to deal with A&E.

In the end, the show will probably continue as usual after A&E has finished with their grandstanding to appease the advertisers.
And frankly, as popular as everybody thinks Phil is, he would be hard pressed to make $200k per episode with somebody else in a different but similar role.

[DinoDoc]

"The "Robertsons" don't hold all the cards.

I dunno. The Robertsons clearly have the family members of A&E execs held hostage. They were still broadcasting an 11 hour marathon of Duck Dynasty over the weekend featuring Phil. Why else would they do that given the obvious offense they had over his statements?

[Ming]

I dunno. The Robertsons clearly have the family members of A&E execs held hostage. They were still broadcasting an 11 hour marathon of Duck Dynasty over the weekend featuring Phil. Why else would they do that given the obvious offense they had over his statements?

TO MAKE MONEY, that's why they were doing it.
Why not run the shows they had already filmed with Phil... he already got paid for those.

A&E placed PHIL on "Indefinite Hiatus". That is the LEAST act they could have taken. They didn't fire him (they aren't that stupid )
This is basically a slap on the wrist... A supposed Moral High Ground to appease the advertisers and Show their "concern" to the gay community.
They get their moment to say how "terrible" it is... and how they don't condone his actions... and how it isn't the stance of the network... blah blah blah blah.

It will be interesting to see how long "indefinite" is. I personally think "indefinite" isn't going to be too long. It is their number one show.
There will probably be some more apologies, some more hand wringing, some more positive statements by A&E toward the gay community, and then it will business as usual.
They are in the business of making money

Phil may be hung out to dry for a period, but the rest of the bunch is still under contract, and they aren't going any where.

[notyoueither]

I wonder what term is left on their contract(s).

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

The rest of the Robertsons are under contract and are FORCED to deal with A&E.

FORCED??? (lol) No one is forced to do anything. They may threaten breach of contract but it would be an outlandishly stupid move on A&E's part to prosecute it. You are right A&E will cave, Phil will be put back on the show but only because the Robertsons hold all the cards. Phil's not going to blink nor are any of his family.

[kentonio]

FORCED??? (lol) No one is forced to do anything. They may threaten breach of contract but it would be an outlandishly stupid move on A&E's part to prosecute it. You are right A&E will cave, Phil will be put back on the show but only because the Robertsons hold all the cards. Phil's not going to blink nor are any of his family.

If by all the cards you mean 'The Robertsons will either fulfil their contracts or be sued into bankruptcy', then yes I'm sure they hold all the cards.

Sweet jesus, have any of you ***** ever actually seen a contract before?

[DaShi]

Amusing how quickly some conservatives here have changed their views on business because of this incident.