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Backwoods Hillbilly Removed From Show About Backwoods Hillbillies For Being A Backwoods Hillbilly.
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“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
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Originally posted by self biased View Postthis whole thing reeks of a manufactured outrage."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
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Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe View PostIts rather obvious you have never seen the show. The preppy aspect is part and parcel of their ongoing riff on Willie the CEO. The wives also continuously drag out picture albums of the various Robertson men before beards (with the exception of Phil who I think always was bearded). I dont know these guys from Adam so whether they are phony or otherwise I can't speak to. But per norm, I can only surmise you are woefully misinformed and reading some form of leftist hate site and then purporting something as TRUTH!!3@1.A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View PostFolks, we have a masters in history here. Yes, Iowans are considered to be Yankees.A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.
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You're right, I have never seen an episode of that garbage. And you're right a second time; I guess I too quickly assumed that the preppy alternative identity of the family was meant to be kept secret from the audience that watches that trash.
Perhaps Mr. Fun should watch the show and then complain. I thought liberals were all about that not banning things you haven't seen.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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I remember one time I called myself a Yankee on here, and another Polytoner said that "Yankees" only refers to Northeasterners. So what is what, now?Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View PostIf you are speaking of simply a freedom to say whatever you want, yes that can be "restricted" by those people using their own freedom to say whatever they want (and to freely associate with you). Though most people don't think that's a horrible thing in general.
Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View PostAs for me - original sin comes from the sin of Adam. Sava himself has presumed this to mean sex is sinful and that the Church is wrong because it teaches that sex is sinful. Nope. That's not what Genesis teaches. Genesis teaches that the original sin was that of Pride, and that's what the serpent offers Eve. He offers her power and that's what she falls to.
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The sin was choosing knowledge over ignorance, what critter wouldn't make that choice? God did... And it wasn't sex that made God angry so much, it was procreation (the Serpent's contribution to the story). Our ability to procreate combined with the tree of life scared God enough for him to kick Adam and Eve out of the Garden and block their way to "immortality". Its the same motive for the Flood and Tower of Babel, mankind was becoming a nuisance and eventually tried ascending to Heaven
Adam and Eve were immortal in the garden. God commanded them to be fruitful and multiply insofar as they were obedient to God. The punishment of death resulted from disobedience, not from their immortality, or from procreation.
This is actually the Manichean heresy, Berz. It's very old.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View PostSo let's review. Mr. Fun, (who's never watched the show), is telling someone who has watched the show that the show is put on by phoneys, and is making assumptions about not only what the audience has seen but also what the audience should know?
Perhaps Mr. Fun should watch the show and then complain. I thought liberals were all about that not banning things you haven't seen.
Unlike you, I've done something that you have never, EVER done on this site. I honestly owned up to a mistake of mine.A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.
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Originally posted by Sava View PostI agree. We should give the Nazis a break. I mean, the Holocaust? Pffft... that was sooooo long ago.John Brown did nothing wrong.
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He's Serbian. They are kinda into that whole killing Germans thingy.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View PostAdam and Eve were immortal in the garden. God commanded them to be fruitful and multiply insofar as they were obedient to God. The punishment of death resulted from disobedience, not from their immortality, or from procreation.
This is actually the Manichean heresy, Berz. It's very old.
Dont you think its strange that God told people to procreate on the 6th Day but cursed Eve with the pain of childbirth? Course it wasn't really a curse, just God informing her the tree of knowledge comes with a price. Now, if God told Adam and Eve to procreate on the 6th Day, why didn't they? Why'd it take over a 100 years and a Serpent before they had children? God didn't want them to have kids, no rugrats in His Garden damnit!
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They were mortal in the Garden
"Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned."
Prior to the disobedience of Adam towards God, Adam was not subject to death.
God didn't tell them to be fruitful and multiply
God blessed them; and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth."
when they finally did God became mad.
The "be fruitful and multiply" instruction was given to the 6th Day people.
Two, even if this were the case - why would God tell some people to 'fill the earth and subdue it', while condemning Adam and Eve?
Dont you think its strange that God told people to procreate on the 6th Day but cursed Eve with the pain of childbirth?
Course it wasn't really a curse
Now, if God told Adam and Eve to procreate on the 6th Day, why didn't they?
Why'd it take over a 100 years and a Serpent before they had children?Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View PostNot so. Paul says in Romans 5:12
"Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned."
Prior to the disobedience of Adam towards God, Adam was not subject to death.
Yes he did. Genesis 1:28
In the first five chapters of Genesis the word אָדָם ( 'adam ) is used in all of its senses: collectively ("mankind"),[1:27] individually (a "man"),[2:7] gender nonspecific, ("man and woman")[5:1,2] and male.[2:23–24][11] According to the Jewish Encyclopedia, its use in Genesis 1 is generic, while in Genesis 2 and Genesis 3 the generic and personal usages are mixed.[8]
In Genesis 1:27 "adam" is used in the collective sense, whereby not only the individual Adam, but all humans, are created on the sixth day. The interplay between the individual "Adam" and the collective “humankind” is a main literary component to the events that occur in the Garden of Eden, the ambiguous meanings embedded throughout the moral, sexual, and spiritual terms of the narrative reflecting the complexity of the human condition.
Where?
One, this doesn't bear out in Genesis. Adam literally means the first man. If they were men from before, why doesn't Genesis 2 talk about them instead of Adam and Eve? What's so special about Adam and Eve that they would merit mention and not these others who came before?
Two, even if this were the case - why would God tell some people to 'fill the earth and subdue it', while condemning Adam and Eve?
He cursed Eve so that childbirth would now cause pain. Prior, it would not. Same with Adam and his daily toil. It makes perfect sense to me. They sinned and disobeyed God and there are consequences. Eve wanted to 'become like God'.
Again, not what Genesis 2 says. Also, no mention of Adam's curse?
Genesis one is the overview.
Where does Genesis say this?
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