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  • Originally posted by Guynemer View Post
    Then, yes, I will pay them off before I die of being shot in the back by a jealous husband at the age of 92.
    Before or after your wife guts you like a fish?
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    • "Almost everyone"


      So, what percentage of people qualify as the outliers in "almost everyone"?
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      • Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
        Before or after your wife guts you like a fish?
        ...fair point.
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        • What is it, 70 million on Medicaid or something?

          Oh so it's a bigger government healthcare program than the NHS.
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          • Originally posted by Guynemer View Post
            "Almost everyone"


            So, what percentage of people qualify as the outliers in "almost everyone"?
            People on medicaid, and people who are on the border of needing medicaid. Generally your deductible should go down with income because your risk exposure has to be lower if you have less money.

            I agree "almost" is subjective. I contend that it correctly captured my meaning (which I have just clarified). But whatever.
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            • That is not an answer to my question.
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              • Originally posted by Guynemer View Post
                That is not an answer to my question.
                I don't know a percentage off the top of my head. I don't memorize that kind of crap. I do know that medicaid probably covers more people than it should. I would say if you are making more than 35,000 a year you probably should get catastrophic coverage. That's a ballpark. I'm being conservative, most likely it should be lower. Median income is something like 40 or 50k iirc.
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                • a true insurance system with everyone on "high deductible" plans based on their PERSONAL risk preference
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                  • HC: If most people only had catastrophic medical insurance, how do you think the insurance companies would feel about that?
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                    • Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
                      HC: If most people only had catastrophic medical insurance, how do you think the insurance companies would feel about that?
                      I don't give a **** what they would think about that. Do you? If left to their own devices, it's demonstrated to be what most people actually want.
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                      • NHS budget = £95.6bn ~ $150bn for 60m people
                        Medicaid budget = $415bn for 70m people.

                        Wow. Wouldn't actually cost that much more per year to scrap medicaid and insurance and give everyone an NHS, and everyone would be better off. Obviously a terrible idea.
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                        • Oh yeah, also, medicaid should be vouchers, which would put medicaid patients on the private insurance market. Such people would be best off getting low deductible plans of course. Would also make medicaid drastically more efficient, allowing it to pay doctors more. Medicaid patients would get better care and taxpayers would pay less.
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                          • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                            I don't know a percentage off the top of my head. I don't memorize that kind of crap. I do know that medicaid probably covers more people than it should. I would say if you are making more than 35,000 a year you probably should get catastrophic coverage. That's a ballpark. I'm being conservative, most likely it should be lower. Median income is something like 40 or 50k iirc.

                            I'm just trying to get a sense of what you mean by "almost". In my opinion, you have a habit of choosing words poorly, which ends up backing you into corners you don't necessarily want to be in.
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                            • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                              I don't give a **** what they would think about that. Do you? If left to their own devices, it's demonstrated to be what most people actually want.
                              You missed my point. If insurance companies only cover catastrophic care, then they collect far less in premiums. If they collect far less in premiums, how do they pay for catastrophic care?
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                              • HC, do me a favour. You think you're a reasonable person willing to look into the facts of an issue rather than just spout bull**** right? Just spend 10 minutes reading through that blog article Mike linked to, and almost more importantly the comments below it. See if the experiences people describe sound a little different to your experiences of healthcare.

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