Is there still any point to the US President having to be a natural-born citizen of the United States?

[DinoDoc]

How's he remembered in the UK?

[molly bloom]

How's he remembered in the UK?

A good egg, though sometimes confused with a Dutch female.

[Ben Kenobi]

Or King George III as he's known to humans and people with genuine history degrees.

Legally, he was subject of the Queen - Queen Anne, via the Act of Settlement in 1701, providing for the Hanoverian Succession.

George didn't have the de Jure or de facto right to rule prior to shortly before Anne passed on.

[Ben Kenobi]

A good egg, though sometimes confused with a Dutch female.

I had fun on the Boston tour remarking how little has changed - they celebrate traitors and hang loyalists. Benedict did far more than Revere ever did to further the revolution.

[molly bloom]

Legally, he was subject of the Queen - Queen Anne

Please don't be stupid. Please.

Really, please.

[Ben Kenobi]

Please don't be stupid. Please.

Really, please.

Legally that's what the term 'subject to the Queen' means. The de jure right to rule granted to the Hanoverian succession under Queen Anne by the 1701 Act of Settlement pertaining to all of England and the union of the crowns.

It will be interesting seeing the present occupants attempt to unravel the Act of Settlement.

[molly bloom]

Legally that's what the term 'subject to the Queen' means.

Far be it from me to inject an element of common sense into this, but given that you never will...

I know it is difficult to get over local or long standing prejudices, yet if we will suffer ourselves to examine the component parts of the English Constitution, we shall find them to be the base remains of two ancient tyrannies, compounded with some new Republican materials.

First. The remains of Monarchical tyranny in the person of the King.

Secondly. The remains of Aristocratical tyranny in the persons of the Peers.

Thirdly. The new Republican materials, in the persons of the Commons, on whose virtue depends the freedom of England.

The two first, by being hereditary, are independent of the People; wherefore in a CONSTITUTIONAL SENSE they contribute nothing towards the freedom of the State.

To say that the constitution of England is an UNION of three powers, reciprocally CHECKING each other, is farcical; either the words have no meaning, or they are flat contradictions.

First. That the King it not to be trusted without being looked after; or in other words, that a thirst for absolute power is the natural disease of monarchy.

Thomas Paine, 'Common Sense' .

[Ben Kenobi]

Ahh, yes, I'm sure Paine was aggrieved by the illegitimate rule of the Hanoverians. It would have been interesting trolling him about the Glorious Revolution.

[giblets]

Legally, he was subject of the Queen - Queen Anne, via the Act of Settlement in 1701, providing for the Hanoverian Succession.

George didn't have the de Jure or de facto right to rule prior to shortly before Anne passed on.

You know he wrote "George III", right? Not "George I"?

[giblets]

Legally, he was subject of the Queen - Queen Anne, via the Act of Settlement in 1701, providing for the Hanoverian Succession.

George didn't have the de Jure or de facto right to rule prior to shortly before Anne passed on.

You know he wrote "George III", right? Not "George I"?

[molly bloom]

You know he wrote "George III", right? Not "George I"?

They're easily confused by serial killing wannabes chasing PhDs across the Texan panhandle with unwashed stolen supermarket bags wrapped around their faecally smeared 'history' degree certificates.

I frequently confuse William III Orange with a Terry's chocolate orange, Elizabeth I Tudor with Edward Tudor-Pole and Richard, Duke of Cornwall with the Dukes of Hazzard.

[Dr Strangelove]

As long as they were citizens when the Constitution was adopted, Paine and Hamilton would have both been eligible.

Thomas Paine immigrated to the US in 1774. After the revolution was over he moved back to Europe and was even elected to the French National Assembly. When he wound up on the wrong side of the power struggles he had considerable difficulty convincing the US ambassador to claim him as an American citizen. Eventually his friend James Madison intervened.

Alexander Hamilton was born in the Caribbean, moving to Boston in 1772, so by 1787 he would have lived the required 14 years in America.

[Dr Strangelove]

You know he wrote "George III", right? Not "George I"?

I was wondering when someone would notice that.

[Ben Kenobi]

You know he wrote "George III", right? Not "George I"?

Yes, and? Neither Hamilton, nor Paine were born under the reign of George III.

[giblets]

Yes, and? Neither Hamilton, nor Paine were born under the reign of George III.

And whose reign were they born under....? Please give the time frame during which either one of those men was a "subject of the Queen".