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Is there still any point to the US President having to be a natural-born citizen of the United States?

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  • #46
    As long as they were citizens when the Constitution was adopted, Paine and Hamilton would have both been eligible.
    John Brown did nothing wrong.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Sava View Post
      I say get rid of the restriction. I mean, it didn't prevent OBAMA
      Don't blame the Constitution because Obama lied about being born in KENYA and his allies in the lamestream media covered it up.
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      • #48
        I've thought this meant a PotUS couldn't be born via c-section.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by kentonio View Post
          It seems like a bit of an anachronism to me. Surely the ideology behind America is opportunity? That any man or woman no matter how humble his or her background can work hard and achieve anything?

          The idea of choice pervades everything, yet if someone chooses to move to America and become an American, and chooses to devote their life to public service, and then the US public choose to be represented by that person, that is not allowed due to a technicality of where that person was born.

          I understand why it was originally a rule, because the founders were concerned about foreign powers gaining control of a country where democracy was still limited and where the spread of information to the public was extremely scarce. However various rules have changed over the years including the introduction of term limits. Is there still any reason for keeping the natural born rule?

          *EDIT: Meant to add a yes/no poll but forgot because I'm an idiot.
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          • #50
            This is like a debate question that a sixth grade school teacher might pose to her class of pre pubes fifth graders. There is no point to this discussion, no originality in the topic, nothing but angst. Foreigners are untrustworthy obviously, but the real reason for this restriction is that the Chinks are getting close to hacking brains. Foreigners are dumber and easier to hack in the Information Age, to use an Age of Empires reference, WHICH BABY WE'VE ENTERED IF NOT PASSED.
            Last edited by Wiglaf; November 8, 2013, 02:18. Reason: To be clear thread starter IS AN IDIOT. :mad:L

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            • #51
              In those revolutionary war movies I always find myself rooting for the redcoats.
              Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

              Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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              • #52
                That's like saying you wanted convict ships to Australia to sink.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                  No matter what you see the point of anymore, it's that way for a reason. Belatedly making excuses for Obama changes nothing.
                  For Obama? Hahaha, you ****ing insane old nutter, you really should get some mental help.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                    That's like saying you wanted convict ships to Australia to sink.
                    Well yes - that too - I just don't like rebels, offends my sense of order.
                    Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                    Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                    • #55
                      As long as they were citizens when the Constitution was adopted, Paine and Hamilton would have both been eligible.
                      Paine and Hamilton were both subjects of the Queen. There's a significant grandfather clause exempting those born before the signing of the US constitution.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Alexander's Horse View Post
                        In those revolutionary war movies I always find myself rooting for the redcoats.


                        I feel the same about the Romans/Egyptians in Biblical epics.


                        Paine and Hamilton were both subjects of the Queen.

                        Or King George III as he's known to humans and people with genuine history degrees.
                        Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

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                        • #57
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                          • #58
                            If we're going to discuss the Revolutionary War, can we at least direct it to the cool bits of it? Like the Culper Spy Ring for instance.
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                              If we're going to discuss the Revolutionary War, can we at least direct it to the cool bits of it? Like the Culper Spy Ring for instance.
                              And people with two forenames, such as Benedict Arnold.
                              Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                              ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                              • #60
                                How's he remembered in the UK?
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                                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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