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  • Originally posted by Elok View Post
    I didn't say "Ken" in that post, you'll notice.
    I did. I also noticed that you didn't mention anybody by name. That's why I could take advantage like that. The timing was perfect!
    No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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    • He, like many British conservatives, is fiscally conservative and by your standards, socially liberal, I suppose.
      I'm still waiting for a position, and not a label. Give me an example of a position that he holds that you regard as 'conservative'.

      What programme ? And as I should have guessed with a 'statistic' quoted by you, it's actually just someone's opinion- and not based on an exhaustive survey of all claimants with a disability.
      She was the director of the entire disability program, charged with providing accommodations to students with a disability. I worked with them for awhile, but didn't bother after we had some serious disagreements over their accommodations regarding notetakers. I wanted to select my own notetakers, they wanted to hire anonymously so that I would never meet them. The 80/20 figure was her number regarding students enrolled in the program. 80 percent of students with a disability who registered with them for an accommodation had ADHD and recieved either extra time, accommodations regarding testing venue or a separate test just for them.

      Do I need to suggest why this is all conducive to fraud?
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      • Did Ben fake deafness just so someone else would take his notes for him?

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        • Ben, what are your hearing test results?

          At RIT as I've mentioned before we have a lot of deaf students. In classes where a lot of deaf students have signed up the university will pay undergrads to sit in and take notes for them, so they can pay attention to the interpreter. It's a good way to earn some easy beer money. Pay is NY minimum wage but it's pretty easy work. I've never done it myself.

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          • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
            I'm still waiting for a position, and not a label. Give me an example of a position that he holds that you regard as 'conservative'.
            You'll get one just as soon as you admit your errors relating to historical facts- and the un-acknowledged use of the Royal Navy Museum's website, and admission of your error in thinking that I didn't have any African friends and....

            See, it's all about 'take take take' with you.

            Do I need to suggest why this is all conducive to fraud?
            You need to show how this accurately reflects the veracity of those claiming disability benefits in society as a whole. You haven't, you've simply quoted the opinion of someone you know in one particular localized instance. How entirely unlike you....


            And yet again why do I get the feeling the unwritten text here is 'My disability's genuine. Not like theirs...' ?

            Oh, must be because it's you.
            Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

            ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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            • Ben, what are your hearing test results?
              The latest?

              35 decibels at 250
              60 decibels at 500
              85 decibels at 1k

              Nothing over 1k I can hear.

              Those are my hearing thresholds.

              At RIT as I've mentioned before we have a lot of deaf students. In classes where a lot of deaf students have signed up the university will pay undergrads to sit in and take notes for them, so they can pay attention to the interpreter. It's a good way to earn some easy beer money. Pay is NY minimum wage but it's pretty easy work. I've never done it myself
              Nothing over 1k decibels.

              At RIT as I've mentioned before we have a lot of deaf students. In classes where a lot of deaf students have signed up the university will pay undergrads to sit in and take notes for them, so they can pay attention to the interpreter. It's a good way to earn some easy beer money. Pay is NY minimum wage but it's pretty easy work. I've never done it myself.
              Well, in my case I was taking honors physics and astronomy. Since we were such a small group and we were all in each other's classes, I had a friend take notes for me in every class. The disability centre at UBC balked at paying one person so much and used to stop the pay. I had to go back in and fight with them endlessly to ensure that my friend was paid. At UNBC - they didn't permit me to choose a friend to take notes for me. They wanted to go through an entire hiring process... waste of time. Letting me pick was simpler, faster and more effective at getting someone good.

              I ended up paying for a notetaker myself out of pocket. Expensive but it meant I could concentrate on just listening to the prof.
              Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
              "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
              2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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              • You'll get one just as soon as you admit your errors relating to historical facts
                Ahahaha.

                Yeah, just as I thought. Your 'partner' isn't a conservative at all.

                admission of your error in thinking that I didn't have any African friends
                I never stated that you didn't know any African people. Just you don't treat them as your friends.

                You need to show how this accurately reflects the veracity of those claiming disability benefits in society as a whole.
                Disability funding at the university is publically funded, and fraud is endemic due to exam accommodations. If they didn't get extra time, disability accommodations would drop dramatically.

                you've simply quoted the opinion of someone you know in one particular localized instance.
                I'm sure that while the ratio will vary at other places, I have a hard time believing that it would vary by more than 10-20 percent. Most people with actual disabilities don't make it to university, for a variety of reasons.

                And yet again why do I get the feeling the unwritten text here is 'My disability's genuine. Not like theirs...' ?
                Fraud is endemic, molly.
                Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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                • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                  Ahahaha.

                  Yeah, just as I thought. Your 'partner' isn't a conservative at all.

                  .
                  My partner and I regularly laugh about how we cancel out each other's votes at every election- and have done since we've been together. I'm not sure why you keep petulantly writing 'partner' like that- he is very much my partner so get over it. And while we're at it, how about admitting those errors ? Like I said, with you it's all take, take, take....

                  You stated you didn't believe I had any black friends, and that I was using one of these non-existent black friends as a token. Not only is this not particularly Christian of you, but given you know so little about my personal life and that all you do know emanates from me, I'm not clear why you think it's difficult for a white person to have more than one black or African friend.


                  Just you don't treat them as your friends.

                  You mean socialise with them, know details of their private life, buy them gifts on birthdays and at Christmas, go to a memorial for their dead brother, attend a church breakfast with them ?

                  Check on all of the above, loser.

                  Disability funding at the university is publically funded, and fraud is endemic due to exam accommodations.
                  Again, you haven't shown how this is supposed to accurately reflect the veracity of your claim about 80% of disability claimants nationwide. Because of course it doesn't support it, it's just someone's opinion.

                  Most people with actual disabilities don't make it to university, for a variety of reasons.
                  So why would 80% of disability claimants nationally be fraudulently claiming ? This doesn't make any sense at all- figures.

                  Fraud is endemic, molly.
                  Like you claiming to have read Hobbes's 'Leviathan' ? If you'd have claimed Locke's 'Second Treatise On Civil Government' or 'A Letter Concerning Toleration' I still would have disbelieved you but would at least have seen the point.
                  Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                  ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                  • My partner and I regularly laugh about how we cancel out each other's votes at every election- and have done since we've been together. I'm not sure why you keep petulantly writing 'partner' like that- he is very much my partner so get over it. And while we're at it, how about admitting those errors ? Like I said, with you it's all take, take, take....
                    I'm still waiting for a conservative position that he holds.

                    You stated you didn't believe I had any black friends, and that I was using one of these non-existent black friends as a token.
                    He might consider himself one of your friends, but you don't treat him that way. Yes, you're using him as a token.

                    Not only is this not particularly Christian of you, but given you know so little about my personal life and that all you do know emanates from me, I'm not clear why you think it's difficult for a white person to have more than one black or African friend.
                    No, I don't think that's difficult at all. I don't think that this 'friend' you parade about is truly a friend of yours.

                    You mean socialise with them, know details of their private life, buy them gifts on birthdays and at Christmas, go to a memorial for their dead brother, attend a church breakfast with them ?
                    Wow, I guess that makes it so special that he's black.

                    Check on all of the above, loser.
                    Hahaha, I'm not the one posting for validation.

                    Again, you haven't shown how this is supposed to accurately reflect the veracity of your claim about 80% of disability claimants nationwide. Because of course it doesn't support it, it's just someone's opinion.
                    It's not 'just someone's opinion'. It's the actual hard numbers from the director of the program responsible.

                    So why would 80% of disability claimants nationally be fraudulently claiming ? This doesn't make any sense at all- figures.
                    Because they are given exam accommodations that make it easier for one to pass.

                    Like you claiming to have read Hobbes's 'Leviathan' ? If you'd have claimed Locke's 'Second Treatise On Civil Government' or 'A Letter Concerning Toleration' I still would have disbelieved you but would at least have seen the point.
                    Read them all, molly. Probably what - first year? I took a history course...
                    Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                    "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                    2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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                    • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                      I'm still waiting for a conservative position that he holds.
                      Jolly good. Then you've just had a demonstration of how I keep an idiot in suspense.

                      He might consider himself one of your friends, but you don't treat him that way. Yes, you're using him as a token.
                      A) 'He' was in fact a she- bad memory for your prejudicial views ? Clearly.

                      B) I never used her as a token- I simply mentioned how I had helped celebrate her birthday. Oh, Christiane is from Cameroon. Sam and Anna are from Nigeria, Benin City and Ilorin respectively. Ibrahim and Pastor Leaman are from Sierra Leone.

                      No, I don't think that's difficult at all. I don't think that this 'friend' you parade about is truly a friend of yours.
                      That's friends, plural, loser. I don't parade them, because I don't have to. I don't think having friends from Africa or black friends is that unusual. Clearly you do.

                      I did spend part of yesterday evening with two of them- Anna and I shared onion bagels, and she's getting me a memory stick so I can put some Mahalia Jackson on it. Had a pleasant chat with Sam about mulled wine. Oh yes, all very tokenistic, you loser.

                      Wow, I guess that makes it so special that he's black.
                      Well you seem to be the one who thinks their skin colour is really special, not me. Speaks volumes about your inner racist doesn't it, 'Christian' Sister Bendy ?

                      Hahaha, I'm not the one posting for validation.
                      It's information. What you do with it or think about it is your affair- I don't give a sh!t whether you imagine I have any black or African friends or not. My life will continue without the dubious benefit of your approval.

                      It's the actual hard numbers from the director of the program responsible.
                      I'm sorry, it wasn't hard numbers, it was a guess- certainly the way you wrote it.

                      Because they are given exam accommodations that make it easier for one to pass.
                      If most people nationally with disabilities don't go to university, then the numbers at your university clearly don't reflect the part of the population which is disabled and genuinely claiming benefits, do they ?

                      Read them all, molly. Probably what - first year? I took a history course...
                      Of course you have dear, just like I've read the Bhagavad Gita in the original.
                      Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                      ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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