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  • #91
    Pretty stupid, I'd have to say, but not barking mad.

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    • #92
      I don't know. When you consider that Christianity pretty much came with the coming of Christ, and the Old Testament was before that, I could call it barking mad.
      Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
      "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
      He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
        It's a violation of the Canadian constitution to have prior restraint on free expression of speech. Others have fought this on similar grounds (Boissoin and Whatcott) are two, and both won their cases, although I believe Whatcott had to relocate. In any case, Kempling seems far happier teaching in a private school which is their gain and a loss to the public sector. Arguing that him writing letters to the editor in his time as a private citizen constitutes 'conduct unbecoming for a teacher' is just code words for politics in another language.
        the courts looked at the facts of the case and decided that the BCTF's actions were reasonable and within the law.

        i'll take their word over yours.

        Let's be clear here - the complainant wasn't the principal, the administration, fellow teachers, his students or the parents involved. The complaint came from the BCTF itself. Given that the mandate of the BCTF which Kempling was required to pay dues, is to protect their teachers, this is a violation of their own conduct.
        it seems that the BCTF's mandate is also to demand certain standards of behaviour from teachers. chris kempling couldn't keep his bigotry towards homosexuals under control (or at least couldn't shut up about it), and was punished for it.

        chris kempling believed, as you do, that they acted improperly. he took them to court and lost. i don't see what's hard to understand about this.
        "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

        "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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        • #94
          the courts looked at the facts of the case and decided that the BCTF's actions were reasonable and within the law.
          So you suspend an excellent teacher who's taught for 20 years and blackball them from their profession. How is this a good outcome? Nobody who worked with the man complained, be it staff, parents or children. As a political witchhunt it was excellent, but one would expect a free country to give a fair hearing.

          it seems that the BCTF's mandate is also to demand certain standards of behaviour from teachers.
          Then they ought to refund Kempling's dues paid. There's a conflict of interest in that Kempling was forced to fund and depend upon the regulatory body for his employment while at the same time facing them as his accuser. They cannot uphold their primary duty to represent the interest of Kempling.

          chris kempling couldn't keep his bigotry towards homosexuals under control
          Which is why there were no classroom incidents? How does the BCTF have the power to regulate what Kempling does in his spare time? This is a gross overreach of their mandate.
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          • #95
            Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
            Pretty sure that's an actionable statement. You might be unaware of recent Ontario law, but Ontario now considers this to be defamation.
            You know what else is almost certainly actionable?

            Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
            http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1450299

            Also this. She was later shown to have written n*gger on the receipt herself. She did get 20k for her suffering though! Nice work if you can get it.
            I suggest you either provide some very concrete proof of your accusation or withdraw it immediately.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
              So you suspend an excellent teacher who's taught for 20 years and blackball them from their profession. How is this a good outcome? Nobody who worked with the man complained, be it staff, parents or children. As a political witchhunt it was excellent, but one would expect a free country to give a fair hearing.
              he had his day in court. the court decided against him. he appealed the decision and lost again. you may not like the outcome, but he got a fair hearing.

              Then they ought to refund Kempling's dues paid. There's a conflict of interest in that Kempling was forced to fund and depend upon the regulatory body for his employment while at the same time facing them as his accuser. They cannot uphold their primary duty to represent the interest of Kempling.
              he could have resigned at any time and in the end, he did.

              How does the BCTF have the power to regulate what Kempling does in his spare time? This is a gross overreach of their mandate.
              they do and it isn't. at least according to the canadian courts.
              "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

              "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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              • #97
                Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                I might have missed it in the article but how did the patrons find out the guy was gay.
                I had the same thought.

                I wouldn't give a **** either way but something is missing from this story.
                "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by C0ckney View Post
                  it's good that that bigot isn't teaching or counselling children in the public school system anymore. canada
                  The US takes our rejects.

                  The place is full of them.
                  "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                  "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                    I think it's cute when atheists try to argue with Christians and use the Old Testament as their cite. I mean, how stupid is that?
                    I'm not an atheist.

                    And between the two of us, the stupid one is the person who believes in some bronze age religion.
                    To us, it is the BEAST.

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                    • Originally posted by Boris Godunov View Post
                      Restaurants should just charge a standard gratuity for all tables and prohibit any additional tipping. It's the best way.
                      BS. I`d never pass through their doors again.

                      A gratuity is based upon level of service. Period.

                      If you make it mandatory it removes incentive for good service.
                      "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                      "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                      • Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                        I stand corrected
                        Anecdotal. If the idea was such a success it would have spread (this guy talks about 6 years ago!).
                        "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                        "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                        • Originally posted by Tuberski View Post
                          Because he butt-****ed the busboy during dessert.

                          Does it matter how?

                          ACK!
                          If the busboy was very good looking, I'd do it before the first course. No tip for me though, because I love him LOOOOOONNNGGGGG TTTTIIIMMMMMEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!
                          Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                          ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                          • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                            Question - if your server were to wear a tea party pin - would liberals justify not tipping them because of 'poor service'?

                            .
                            I'm more interested in the demeanour and ability of the waiting staff than their political opinions or sexual orientations. If they're grumpy, inattentive or spill hot soup on my crotch, then the tip is reduced accordingly.


                            I worked as a pizza delivery driver and yes - liberals do just that.

                            Another of Sister Bendy's 'Tales Of Woe'- bad landlords, bad liberals, but never bad Sister Bendy. It's a miracle on 34th Street, I tells ya !
                            Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                            ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                            • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                              What's the surprise? Liberals tip crap. .
                              A mind reader, and amazingly industrious to have served the majority of 'liberals' in the U.S. or Canada.
                              Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                              ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                              • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                                At least when I was a driver - tips were about half our pay. No tips, and we would make about 5/hour.
                                'When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist.'
                                When I ask why Sister Bendy is complaining about 'liberals' tipping him poorly in a badly paid job, I wonder why Sister isn't complaining about the CRAP RATES OF PAY instead.
                                Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                                ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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