Now you see, this is homophobic, and it makes Christianity look bad, and I feel ashamed by association.

[notyoueither]

I've given Sava a final warning about some of his posts in this thread. They really cross the line.

Can you explain this line and which posts of his crossed it?

[N35t0r]

I'd guess this one, for a start.

You rape deaf children.

I just defamed you.

Come at me bro.

[Nikolai]

I think his point is more about taking planks out of your own eye.

Also, as has been said time and time again, Leviticus was fullfilled by Jesus on the cross. We're not under the Law of Sinai anymore.

[Ben Kenobi]

Also, as has been said time and time again, Leviticus was fullfilled by Jesus on the cross. We're not under the Law of Sinai anymore.

And Romans makes it clear that sodomy is still sinful. The punishments from Leviticus may not apply - but that doesn't mean that Jesus thinks sodomy is a-ok.

Also - the bible distinguishes from those who suffer from temptation and those who actually engage in sin. We are all tempted to sin - but we are called to overcome our temptations.

[Berzerker]

Jesus didn't write Romans

[Nikolai]

Jesus inspired Romans through the Holy Ghost. Really. This is Christianity 101.

[MRT144]

Man youknow what we call inspired people now? Crazy.

[Berzerker]

Jesus inspired Romans through the Holy Ghost. Really. This is Christianity 101.

you mean he inspired Paul?

and we have Paul's word on that?

[Sava]

don't think
just believe

and hate gay people

[Berzerker]

but I already believe... that Paul was a douche, he spent his youth murdering people and his later years pontificating about morality

[Boris Godunov]

Hey, if Joseph Smith can get his revelation from looking at rocks in a hat, what's so weird about a guy being inspired by a spoooooooky ghost?

[Berzerker]

dum-de-dum-dum-dum

[Sava]

but I already believe... that Paul was a douche, he spent his youth murdering people and his later years pontificating about morality

I tend to think this about most everyone born before the 20th century. And even today, maybe only 10% of people aren't total assholes.

[Imran Siddiqui]

you mean he inspired Paul?

and we have Paul's word on that?

We have Luke's words on that (the Book of Acts). We also have the early Church's word on that - which was also inspired by the Holy Spirit. Heck, the Gospels were likely written with Paul's letters in mind, seeing as Paul's letters are the first writings on Christ we have.

[Imran Siddiqui]

but I already believe... that Paul was a douche

As does Paul himself. He acknowledges his sinfulness and that he does that which he considers wrong - that is why he is so grateful for the grace of God.