Remembering homeless people in winter

[Aeson]

"Only"? What you're describing there is a level of climate change not seen since dinosaurs walked the Earth.

Good point. The dinosaurs didn't allow so many homeless people to freeze to death as we do.

[The Mad Monk]

I think we should replace all our dirty, greenhouse gas generating cars with horses. This should satisfy both aeson and HC, since we can reduce emissions, and build dikes and levees with the mountains of manure.

[Ben Kenobi]

You have absolutely no knowledge of what I do or do not do with my time in real life, so spare me your bull**** and let's have one thread at least that isn't polluted with your poison.

Sure I do. Call us when you finish patting yourself on the back.

[kentonio]

Sure I do. Call us when you finish patting yourself on the back.

Why should I be surprised, you base your views on everything else based on whatever random crap you've made up in your head, so why should this be any different. Go back to telling yourself what a great Christian, historian, teacher and all round human being you are, while the grown ups talk.

[Felch]

"Only"? What you're describing there is a level of climate change not seen since dinosaurs walked the Earth.

Can you imagine an Earth so incredibly vibrant that it could support teeming herds of giant animals? Moderately higher temperatures and higher concentrations of CO2 are good for life. Opponents of carbon just want us and the homeless to freeze to death.

[giblets]

Can you imagine an Earth so incredibly vibrant that it could support teeming herds of giant animals? Moderately higher temperatures and higher concentrations of CO2 are good for life. Opponents of carbon just want us and the homeless to freeze to death.

You're trolling, right? You aren't seriously claiming megafauna have anything to do with global temperatures?

[Felch]

Of course. CO2 supports photosynthesis, and higher temperature lengthen the growing season. Since plants are at the base of the food chain, increasing plant life promotes all other life. That's why you see elephants in Africa, not Antarctica.

There are obviously more complicated factors, like ocean currents that allow giant whales to prosper in cold climates, but there can be no denying that CO2 is good for plants, and frost is bad for them.

[giblets]

Of course. CO2 supports photosynthesis, and higher temperature lengthen the growing season. Since plants are at the base of the food chain, increasing plant life promotes all other life. That's why you see elephants in Africa, not Antarctica.

There are obviously more complicated factors, like ocean currents that allow giant whales to prosper in cold climates, but there can be no denying that CO2 is good for plants, and frost is bad for them.

You are aware that elephants have relatives (called woolly mammoths) who lived in cold climates, right?

[Felch]

Sure, and I'm also aware that they're all dead.

[Felch]

Also, not sure how many woolly mammoths were ever in Antarctica.

[giblets]

Sure, and I'm also aware that they're all dead.

Yes, coincidentally they died out when humans arrived.

[giblets]

Also, not sure how many woolly mammoths were ever in Antarctica.

So global warming makes Antarctica a more liveable place? That's exactly the problem: the places that would actually improve are the places where few people currently live while places where lots of people live (like Africa or South Asia) would be screwed.

[Felch]

That means that they were failed organisms, unless you want to join Kidicious in denying Darwinism.

A don't pretend like humans haven't ever tried to kill African elephants. We used to murder **** tons of them just for billiard balls. But because high temperatures are good for plant life, they subtropical-tropical plains of Africa were able to support larger populations than the frozen wastelands of the Arctic.

[Felch]

So global warming makes Antarctica a more liveable place? That's exactly the problem: the places that would actually improve are the places where few people currently live while places where lots of people live (like Africa or South Asia) would be screwed.

I don't live in Africa or South Asia. My home state is actually getting a longer, warmer growing season because of climate change.

[giblets]

That means that they were failed organisms, unless you want to join Kidicious in denying Darwinism.

A don't pretend like humans haven't ever tried to kill African elephants. We used to murder **** tons of them just for billiard balls. But because high temperatures are good for plant life, they subtropical-tropical plains of Africa were able to support larger populations than the frozen wastelands of the Arctic.

You can call them failed if you want. The point is that their failure is being efficiently killed and eaten by humans and has nothing to do with the cold.