Hey Slowwy! You should be proud of your daughter!

[kentonio]

So how did you extricate yourself from that situation?

Through a mix of timely arrival of the police and extremely good fortune.

Considering this is what Ben explicitly said, yes. I will trust the author's claim of intent for the passage as opposed to some hate addled interpretation of his motive.

Like you were ever going to do otherwise.

[Kidlicious]

Then with all due respect you're being an idiot. She did kill him, and trying to minimize the importance of that is a terrible mistake.

No. You're being the idiot. I'm not minimizing anything. I'm being realistic. You're the one making this out to be something that it's not.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Like you were ever going to do otherwise.

True always been against the haters.

[MRT144]

Kentonio, I've been a victim of a home invasion once myself and I didn't have a gun at the time. It also wasn't two men (just one punk), and he wasn't in the house yet. I am glad that she was far more prepared then I was, and so had more options available. That one of the men died from the shooting wounds - is a consequence of his decision to break into the house.

Thieves deserve to die.

[Ben Kenobi]

You break into a home in Texas, you should be the recipient of a Darwin award.

[notyoueither]

Extra-judicial.

That isn't the same as illegal, as in this case the woman wasn't actually breaking any laws, yet by killing the intruder that person was not judged by the normal processes of the justice system.

Pretty much meaningless the way you are using it.

Even police shootings of rampaging madmen would be 'extra-judicial' as it is unlikely a court would be involved in the process.

[SlowwHand]

He's just desperate to offer excuses from the criminal viewpoint.

[notyoueither]

He's just desperate to offer excuses from the criminal viewpoint.

Actually, I see him as being desperate to project his values and beliefs as the only legitimate ones.

There are huge differences between the cultures of Canada, Britain, and the US when it comes to guns and self-defence. Acting as if the British view is the only correct one is something I'd expect from a Brit a long time ago.

[MRT144]

You break into a home in Texas, you should be the recipient of a Darwin award.

Yes, you think thieves deserve to die, I established this.

[Ben Kenobi]

Yes, you think thieves deserve to die, I established this.

You're essentially putting your life into the hands of whomever you've broken into not knowing who they are or how many guns they likely own. Not a terribly bright decision.

[MRT144]

You're essentially putting your life into the hands of whomever you've broken into not knowing who they are or how many guns they likely own. Not a terribly bright decision.

Poor decisions should be punished with death.

[MrFun]

There is just a cultural difference here.

In the UK someone who owns and trains with a gun for self defence would be seen as abnormal, and it does have negative connotations. The idea they are taking a vigilante mindset (with the associated negative connotations) makes more sense.

In much of the US it's seen (and is) much more normal so that really doesn't make sense.

Either way as kentonio said he regrets his choice of words I'm not sure why you are all still going on about it.

I thought that the right to life and self defense was a universal value.

[MrFun]

Thieves deserve to die.

The woman should have just asked the two thieves kindly, if their intent was to rape and/or kill her, and then take their word for it, if the two thieves politely replied, "Why no, we would never do that to you."

[Ben Kenobi]

Poor decisions should be punished with death.

Sometimes, that's the result, yes.

[Berzerker]

vigilantism is pro-active, she was at home defending herself

if god told me to kill someone, I'd ask why - if I dont like the answer, I aint killing anyone