Is the Republican party done?

[Ben Kenobi]

This may actually shock someone in the GOP into abandoning the cult of Zombie Reagan.

Newflash, Romney LOST. Yes, I agree this was up for grabs. If Romney won then I think you could have definitely said this. However, he lost, which proves that his approach (and the approach of McCain was the wrong approach.

[Aeson]

The Republican party is as done as it was when Clinton won his second term, or the Democrats were when Bush won his second term. Wait a couple years, the guys in office will do something too obviously stupid, or the economy will be headed down instead of up, or one party's hairdue will be better than than the other's. Then we put the other guys in office. Rinse. Repeat.

[rah]

Welfare whore

Implies that I'll take from the system without having contributed, which is a gross misrepresentation. I've been responsible for 100's of thousands of dollars contributed into the system. I doubt I'll see anything more than a small percentage returned. Considerably less than those that will be receiving government pensions. So you can kiss my ass.

[Alexander's Horse]

same here - I should get a Rolls Royce government pension for all the money I put in...wait a minute, I do

[DinoDoc]

Implies that I'll take from the system without having contributed, which is a gross misrepresentation. I've been responsible for 100's of thousands of dollars contributed into the system.

Sucks to be you for 2 reasons: 1) You'd have had a higher ROI if you'd been allowed to take care of it yourself. 2) Your money already went out to pay for current retirees.

[Al B. Sure!]

Going back to the original point, however, HC suggested that Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, and Vietnamese were all essentially the same. My point is that they're not. I'm not arguing they're more similar than some other group; I'm arguing that you can't just lump them all together and say they vote for the same reasons.

OH MY GOD!


THEY ALL HANG OUT WITH EACH OTHER!


****.

Have none of you except for HC seen Asians in school, work, or ANYWHERE? Doesn't matter if they're Cambodian or Korean; they hang out with each other. They commune in Chinatown regardless of ethnicity. There's definite 'belongingness' among Asian Americans, regardless of ethnicity. All those divisions that exist in Asia disappear when they're in America. Here, they identify with each other regardless of ancestral background.

****.

Latinos sort of do the same thing but not nearly as strongly, even with shared faith and language. Dominicans and Puerto Ricans still have some division between them.

I swear some of you are the most whitebread yokels on the planet acting like you've never been around minorities before.

[giblets]

In school a lot of asian kids were enrolled in AP courses. OMG! They all hang out together!!!!

[Hauldren Collider]

OH MY GOD!


THEY ALL HANG OUT WITH EACH OTHER!


****.

Have none of you except for HC seen Asians in school, work, or ANYWHERE? Doesn't matter if they're Cambodian or Korean; they hang out with each other. They commune in Chinatown regardless of ethnicity. There's definite 'belongingness' among Asian Americans, regardless of ethnicity. All those divisions that exist in Asia disappear when they're in America. Here, they identify with each other regardless of ancestral background.

****.

Latinos sort of do the same thing but not nearly as strongly, even with shared faith and language. Dominicans and Puerto Ricans still have some division between them.

I swear some of you are the most whitebread yokels on the planet acting like you've never been around minorities before.

Uh, kind of. Regarding Chinatown, that's not true in Fairfax. There is a distinct Koreatown in Annandale and little Chinas elsewhere. Other Asian groups just sort of live wherever.

Also some of the Korean kids had open animosity towards the other Asians. Not many but some. They kept to themselves.

[Al B. Sure!]

Here at CMU and at TJ and middle school, the schools I attended that had significant numbers of Asians (of all types), it was always understood that if you said "Asian" you meant far east and southeast, if you said "Indian" you meant India, and if you said "Middle Eastern" you meant anyone from the Muslim world (except Indonesia but I never knew any Indonesians).

HC, they're giving you the Apolyton Twilight Zone treatment I get. Of course you're right. There's a reason why centuries ago when Westerners started studying human variation, they created ideas like Mongoloids and Caucasians, lumping everything from Japanese to Cambodians in Mongoloid and placing Indians with Europeans, N. Africans, and Middle Easterners as Caucasian. Phenotypically and culturally, there's no relation between a typical Indian and a typical East Asian, with the caveat that certain areas (such as Thailand and Nepal) have somewhat of a fusion. Generally speaking, it's obvious why it makes sense to associate Japanese, Chinese, and Vietnamese with each other and why Indians don't belong.

They're playing stupid.

[Al B. Sure!]

Uh, kind of. Regarding Chinatown, that's not true in Fairfax. There is a distinct Koreatown in Annandale and little Chinas elsewhere. Other Asian groups just sort of live wherever.

Also some of the Korean kids had open animosity towards the other Asians. Not many but some. They kept to themselves.

Not necessarily live. Non-Chinese go down to Chinatown a ton. I still am pretty sure there's a Korean and Cambodian population in Philly's Chinatown.

[regexcellent]

In other news, the GOP continues its complete and utter dominance of state governments with 30 governorships held as of this writing. We can look forward to plenty more anti-union, pro-gun, pro-education reform legislation at the state level in the coming years.

It'll be interesting to see if the huge demographic differences between the 2010 and 2008 elections show up again between 2012 and 2014.

[kentonio]

Pro-education? Sure, there must be plenty of American kids who need teaching about how Jesus fought off the the devil mounted on his veloceraptor.

[giblets]

State Legislative Elections: Democrats Gain Control Of Eight Chambers

Democrats are celebrating gains in state legislatures around the country -- including capturing control of eight chambers -- two years after a Republican wave swept many of them out.

Democrats picked up control of the New Hampshire House of Representatives, which has been held by the Tea Party-dominated state Republican Party since 2010. They also grabbed the Oregon House, where the parties have been tied for the last two years, as well as the Colorado House, the Maine House and Senate, the Minnesota House and Senate, and the New York Senate.

Republicans did win three chambers, including wrestling back control of the Wisconsin state Senate, which they lost in the June recall election.

"Voters rejected the hyper-partisanship of Republicans in legislatures," said Michael Sargeant, executive director of the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee. "Republicans were not working on solutions for real people."

The DLCC and its GOP counterpart, the Republican State Leadership Committee -- both Washington-based groups seeking to elect party members to state legislative seats -- took active roles in the elections.

Adam Temple, an RSLC spokesman, conceded the results were not what the committee was "hoping for," but said he does not see them as a referendum on Republican state policies. "It was a combination of a number of factors," Temple said.

Among the factors he cited were the GOP gains in 2010, which gave Republicans more seats and chambers to defend, and the higher voter turnout in a presidential election year, which he said benefited Democrats. Temple pointed to the GOP recapture of the Wisconsin Senate as evidence that Republican policies were "not something that voters were concerned about."

Democrats had taken the Wisconsin Senate in this year's June recall election, but were not able to do much because the chamber had already adjourned for the year before the recall election. Under state law, the Senate could convene only with the consent of the Republican-controlled state Assembly or by order of Gov. Scott Walker (R). Wisconsin Democrats did form committees and hold several committee meetings in the time they controlled the Senate.

Among other GOP gains at the state level were both houses of the Arkansas Legislature, which have not been in Republican hands since the Civil War and were some of the last remaining Democratic chambers in the South. The party and independent conservative groups, including the Koch brothers-affiliated Americans for Prosperity, placed a major focus on Arkansas.

For their part, Democrats were aiming at the 400-member New Hampshire House, with its Tea Party tilt. Over the last two years, state Speaker William O'Brien (R-Mont Vernon) and his allies had pushed for voter ID restrictions, tax cuts and anti-abortion laws. Besides taking the House, state Democrats are also celebrating their retention of the New Hampshire governorship with Maggie Hassen's victory. But Republicans are likely to keep control of the New Hampshire Senate.

Both Temple and Sargeant said they think state legislative races will receive even more national attention -- from party organizations and outside groups -- in future years.

"I am curious to see if the right-wing organizations will continue to move in this direction after last night," Sargeant said. "I believe they will."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/07/state-legislative-elections-democrats_n_2090082.html

Yeah good luck with your "utter dominance of state governments".

[giblets]

Pro-education? Sure, there must be plenty of American kids who need teaching about how Jesus fought off the the devil mounted on his veloceraptor.

It's "pro education reform" meaning they give out vouchers to try to get people to switch to private education so that there will be less resistance to cutting public education funding in the future.

[-Jrabbit]

Wisconsin was fascinating. Both state houses and the governor are Repubs, yet Obama wins the state and a lesbian Democrat snags the US Senate seat - over Tommy Thompson.