Is the Republican party done?

[Supr49er]

Name them.

http://www.democratsforlife.org/

[Asher]

http://www.democratsforlife.org/

Owned!

[DinoDoc]

The problems with the campaign as I see it are: 1) The idiotic and long primary process the GOP had. They quite frankly should go back to winner take all. The evidence seems to be conclusive now that it hurts the eventual winner more than it helps. 2) Romney allowed himself to be sucked into the entertaining but ultimately irrelevant game of smallball (You didn't build that!, 47%!, etc.) rather than making this an actual choice election by putting an agenda on the table and making a forceful argument in favor of it. 3) This is likely a consequence of #1 but his decision to allow the President to define him as an uncaring plutocrat who murders the wives of the employees in the companies Bain takes over unanswered. 4) If the spin about minority outreach is to be believed, as much as I like and admire Ryan it seems Rubio might have been a better Veep pick at least to serve as an effective spokesman in that area. 5) Amazingly the War on Women meme seems to have worked according to exit polling. This one was an unexpected problem (at least to me) as I would have thought the depiction of women as helpless wards of the state who only think with their lady parts might have been seen as insulting and patronizing. The GOP is going to need to come up with an effective pushback against that.

[MRT144]

The problems with the campaign as I see it are: 1) The idiotic and long primary process the GOP had. They quite frankly should go back to winner take all. The evidence seems to be conclusive now that it hurts the eventual winner more than it helps. 2) Romney allowed himself to be sucked into the entertaining but ultimately irrelevant game of smallball (You didn't build that!, 47%!, etc.) rather than making this an actual choice election by putting an agenda on the table and making a forceful argument in favor of it. 3) This is likely a consequence of #1 but his decision to allow the President to define him as an uncaring plutocrat who murders the wives of the employees in the companies Bain takes over unanswered. 4) If the spin about minority outreach is to be believed, as much as I like and admire Ryan it seems Rubio might have been a better Veep pick at least to serve as an effective spokesman in that area. 5) Amazingly the War on Women meme seems to have worked according to exit polling. This one was an unexpected problem (at least to me) as I would have thought the depiction of women as helpless wards of the state who only think with their lady parts might have been seen as insulting and patronizing. The GOP is going to need to come up with an effective pushback against that.

DD, you're obviously not a woman or have any insight into how women view their bodies.

[DinoDoc]

Clearly. Hence the stated surprise I had that it worked.

[MRT144]

Clearly. Hence the stated surprise I had that it worked.

That you perceive protecting lady bits as patronizing towards women is where you should start. I can't help that your partisan bent prevents you from seeing other perspectives.

Edit: You're also really cynical and I don't know if it's always like that or you're just in a mood.

[MRT144]

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2012/11/obama_the_moderate_republican_what_the_2012_election_should_teach_the_gop.html?wpisrc=most_viral

A moderate Republican won last night.

[DinoDoc]

That you perceive protecting lady bits as patronizing towards women is where you should start. I can't help that your partisan bent prevents you from seeing other perspectives.

The patronizing bit of the meme was The Life of Julia put out by the Obama camapign. The insulting part as I saw it was them imploring women to ‘Vote like your lady parts depend on it’. I don't apoligize for thinking those memes absurd. They seem to work though and thus the party needs to make an effective pushback against it in the future.

[Felch]

Romney wasn't conservative enough?

The man signed a mother ****ing "assault weapons ban."

[DinoDoc]

The man signed a mother ****ing "assault weapons ban."

This is one of the reasons why anyone painting the man as an arch-conservative needs to have their heads examined.

[MRT144]

The patronizing bit of the meme was The Life of Julia put out by the Obama camapign. The insulting part as I saw it was them imploring women to ‘Vote like your lady parts depend on it’. I don't apoligize for thinking those memes absurd. They seem to work though and thus the party needs to make an effective pushback against it in the future.

It's not patronizing to highlight the difference between the two parties when it comes to women's reproductive rights.

[DinoDoc]

It's not patronizing to highlight the difference between the two parties when it comes to women's reproductive rights.

Is there a point you are trying to get at? I've conceeded that the entire WoW startegy worked out well for him and that an effective response needs to be found in the future.

[Ben Kenobi]

I guess they do but that doesn't stop pro life democrats from voting democratic candidates into office.

Never said that they didn't. My point was related to just the candidates themselves since that's something that can be proven. The democrat party does engage in a litmus test, and solidarity on abortion from the actual representatives is much stronger on the democrat side than on the republican side.

Democrats are more moderate and less zealous in their political belief. They aren't calling for purges of their fellow voters by alienating them, doubling down on conservatism.

I believe the last prolife democrat candidate was Zell Miller, unless there's someone I've forgotten along the way.

[Felch]

It's not patronizing to highlight the difference between the two parties when it comes to women's reproductive rights.

Pro-choice people talking about "women's reproductive rights" always sounds a lot like the pro-slavery people talking about "State's rights." We all know what you mean, why don't you just come right out and say that you don't think a human fetus is deserving of human rights? Your euphemisms betray a guilty conscience.

The government has the same moral authority to prevent abortion that it has to prevent child abuse. If parents harm their children, then it is the government's responsibility to uphold the rights of the abused, neglected, molested, or in this case, killed. To pretend otherwise is to stand on the wrong side of history.

[MRT144]

Pro-choice people talking about "women's reproductive rights" always sounds a lot like the pro-slavery people talking about "State's rights." We all know what you mean, why don't you just come right out and say that you don't think a human fetus is deserving of human rights? Your euphemisms betray a guilty conscience.

The government has the same moral authority to prevent abortion that it has to prevent child abuse. If parents harm their children, then it is the government's responsibility to uphold the rights of the abused, neglected, molested, or in this case, killed. To pretend otherwise is to stand on the wrong side of history.

that's just like your opinion dude.