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  • Heh, all of them and he still doesn't have the D-R.

    Cool. NRSV is pretty good too. You'd laugh at how small my library is here. I had to leave my Chesterton behind. But it's slowly getting bigger.
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    • I don't have any particular preference in English Bibles, as long as the language is not thee and thou. That's horrible to read. Myself, I use the NB(Norsk Bibel/Norwegian Bible), a concordant translation that I feel well with. The new translation the Norwegian Church uses, Bibel 2011, and the old 78/85 version, is okay, but I like the NB better. The translation Bibelen Guds Ord/The Bible God's Word is a translation I never use. It's based on the King James principles, but is said to be at some places horribly translated.
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      • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
        It is usually considered part of being a Christian that you believe in the resurrection of Jesus (also known as Easter).
        Can you please stop lying, saying that I don't believe in the Resurrection?
        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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        • You do say you don't believe in Easter, which would basically be the same thing.
          Do not fear, for I am with you; Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God.-Isaiah 41:10
          I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made - Psalms 139.14a
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          • Originally posted by Nikolai View Post
            You do say you don't believe in Easter, which would basically be the same thing.
            No it's not, otherwise I would not be able to believe in one and not the other. btw, do you celebrate Passover? Do you know that some people celebrate that for the Resurrection?

            What you're saying is that since you celebrate Easter, I have to celebrate Easter. By that rule if some celebrate Passover (or a no less arbitrary different day as Easter that they make up) every one who claims to be a christian has to celebrate it or you say they aren't a christian.

            The shocking thing to me is that you and Imran fail to see how that is pharisee like behavior.

            edit: To head off nonsense, I don't believe Passover is arbitrary as Jesus, the disciples and the apostles celebrated it. The fact that I have to say that underlines the silliness of this whole argument and makes me feel like I'm being trolled.
            Last edited by Kidlicious; October 18, 2012, 08:22.
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            • Where did I say you have to do anything? I pointed out that the core of our belief is what happened during easter. I believe in what happened then. You say you don't, but then you say you do. Make up your mind. And no, I am not trolling you. I don't think Imran is either.
              Do not fear, for I am with you; Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God.-Isaiah 41:10
              I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made - Psalms 139.14a
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              • Originally posted by Nikolai View Post
                Where did I say you have to do anything? I pointed out that the core of our belief is what happened during easter. I believe in what happened then. You say you don't, but then you say you do. Make up your mind. And no, I am not trolling you. I don't think Imran is either.
                Imran said that you can't be a christian (forgiven) unless you celebrate Easter. If you take someone's side without clarification people will assume that you believe the same thing.

                Did you miss that I asked you if you celebrate Passover for the Resurrection? I'm assuming you don't since you celebrate Easter for it.
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                • Passover is celebrating the exodus from Egypt, where God delivered the Israelites from the Pharao. This is the shadow of what was to come.
                  Easter is celebrating the exodus from life to death, where God died for us so that we could be delivered from sin. This is what the passover foreshadowed.

                  So no, I don't celebrate passover. I celebrate what replaced passover. But I don't belive you need to do anything except belive and profess(Rom 10.9) to be saved. I do believe that Rom 10.9 is right that you need to believe though, and if you don't believe in easter, that is the same as not believing in what easter is all about. At this point is seems to me this is just an example of talking about the same time, but not realizing it. You did just say you believe in the message of easter after all, so it sounds to me that you do indeed believe in easter. Am I right?
                  Do not fear, for I am with you; Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God.-Isaiah 41:10
                  I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made - Psalms 139.14a
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                  • Btw, where did Imran say you can't be a Christian without celebrating easter? What I've seen him say is you need to believe in easter, as in what it represent.
                    Do not fear, for I am with you; Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God.-Isaiah 41:10
                    I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made - Psalms 139.14a
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                    • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                      Heh, all of them and he still doesn't have the D-R.
                      Personally am not a huge fan of Vulgate based Bibles . I prefer those translations that go back to the original Greek (and I just have the KJV just 'cause - it's not really a good translation). The NAB, I believe would cover my Catholic Bible .
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • Originally posted by Nikolai View Post
                        Btw, where did Imran say you can't be a Christian without celebrating easter? What I've seen him say is you need to believe in easter, as in what it represent.
                        For the record, I don't think you need to believe in Easter to be forgiven, as I think God will forgive all in the end (I keep pointing out I'm a universalist, you think someone would get it ).

                        However, I do think a cornerstone of Christian faith is belief in Easter. You may call yourself whatever you wish, but I don't think its too much to ask that one accepts the Nicean Creed. (caveat: there are people who worship with me, in my Church, who don't hold to Nicea)
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • Personally am not a huge fan of Vulgate based Bibles.
                          Hehehe, I wouldn't expect you to.
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                          • Originally posted by Nikolai View Post
                            Btw, where did Imran say you can't be a Christian without celebrating easter? What I've seen him say is you need to believe in easter, as in what it represent.
                            Nope. Told ya.
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                            • Originally posted by Nikolai View Post
                              Passover is celebrating the exodus from Egypt, where God delivered the Israelites from the Pharao. This is the shadow of what was to come.
                              Easter is celebrating the exodus from life to death, where God died for us so that we could be delivered from sin. This is what the passover foreshadowed.

                              So no, I don't celebrate passover. I celebrate what replaced passover.
                              That is your belief and I don't see anything wrong with it. My point was that other people celebrate Passover for the same reason that others celebrate Easter (The Resurrection). And some don't celebrate either one. They believe that Easter is a pagan holiday (I'm not sure exactly what their reasoning is).

                              Now there really shouldn't be any problem here between christians. The problem is with Imran.
                              But I don't belive you need to do anything except belive and profess(Rom 10.9) to be saved. I do believe that Rom 10.9 is right that you need to believe though,
                              That's what I believe.
                              and if you don't believe in easter, that is the same as not believing in what easter is all about.
                              No it isn't. There are people who don't believe in Easter who believe in the resurrection. I don't know if you are saying they are liars, or what.
                              At this point is seems to me this is just an example of talking about the same time, but not realizing it. You did just say you believe in the message of easter after all, so it sounds to me that you do indeed believe in easter. Am I right?
                              Easter is a tradition started by the church. It originated as a pagan holiday/ritual. I believe that the church changed their beliefs in order to accommodate pagans. I think that was wrong. I do not believe that you have to believe in Easter to be a christian. That's just silly, and it really contradicts what Jesus taught. However, I don't oppose Easter and celebrate it with my church because I believe that Paul taught include people who believe differently than yourself.
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