Dark Knight Rises

[Hauldren Collider]

It's always intrigued me how the "well-ordered militia" bit proves to be considered just so much padding.

Yet another brit who does not understand the constitution

The well-regulated militia bit refers to the fact that the feds can't keep the states from having a national guard. It's separate from the private citizen's right to bear arms.

[regexcellent]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma_splice

[Wezil]

I doubt it. That guy gave his little girl's laptop ten rounds. It wasn't coming back. Even if it did, you have to throw a damned heavy computer to damage even a cheap handgun seriously.

It was merely a scratch.

Mine has had worse.

[regexcellent]

And you can make home-made bombs too. So, clearly, they should be legal, right?

Making bombs is really, really dangerous. Making ammo is easy and pretty safe.

Bombs and explosives are legal in this country; you just need certain licenses that very few people have; they tend to be expensive.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Well, enjoy your third-world standard homicide rates and just keep telling yourself it's the price you pay for freedom.

[regexcellent]

If you'd like an example of gun control not working, try South Africa.

[Hauldren Collider]

Well, enjoy your third-world standard homicide rates and just keep telling yourself it's the price you pay for freedom.

The homicide rate where I live is probably less than London's

If you'd like an example of gun control not working, try South Africa.

I was gonna say Mexico...or North Ireland. Zing!

[The Mad Monk]

Bugs, are we discussing legality, or enforcability? You seem to be crossing the streams here.

[regexcellent]

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Fairfax%2C+Virginia+homicide+rate

0.0 per 100,000 people per year, definitely less than London.

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/news-releases/2011/042111crimestats2010.htm

1.6 per 100,000 people per year, compared to London's 1.9 in 2010. That's the surrounding county. Definitely lower.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_London#Homicide

By the way, when was the handgun ban created? London's homicide rate hasn't improved that much in the last 20 years, compared with the improvements made in the United States at the same time.

[Hauldren Collider]

1.6? I could swear I read it was .5 somewhere.

[regexcellent]

It's still about a third of the national average. I think it's less than the Canadian average too. Latest data I can find for that is 2006 so I'm not sure.

[regexcellent]

Also I made a mistake-it's about 1.5, not 1.6.

[Wezil]

Fake London is 1.2 per 100K

Re - rest of Canada

Canada's homicide rates from 2000-2009 (per 100,000 people)

1.2: London

3.7: Regina (highest)

0.6: Peterborough (lowest)

1.5: Ontario

1.8: Canada

From here: http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/2.../18905576.html

I can't be bothered with StatsCan.

[The Mad Monk]

The gunman dyed his hair red and identified himself as The Joker.

[Wiglaf]

He also had no permits apparently so the legal issue is probably moot.