Catholic church condones child rape and is against the abortion that will save her life

[Ben Kenobi]

Very instructive as to how he views a potential wife.

Yes, it's quite surprising that I believe in Ephesians 5, where the man has the obligation of dying for his wife. I'm not a secularist. I'm not sure why you believe I would see marriage the same way as someone who is a secularist. I have different obligations and responsibilities.

[Ben Kenobi]

I was pointing out that the data from Grupo Curumim wasn't relevant to this case because its contaminated by data from pregnancies in children older than the age range in question. Do you actually beleive that if I took a sample of pregnancies of girls from aged 10 to 14 that there would likely be as many in the 10 and 11 year old group as there would be in the 13 and 14 year old group?

That's not what you said earlier. You said earlier that you 'believed' this to be the case. Where's the evidence for this?

Do you have evidence to support your contention that there would be significant differences in terms of maternal mortality between the 10 and the 11 years olds, as between the 13 and 14 year olds?

The doctor didn't write the news article. We don't really know what his diagnosis of the cause of her stomach pain was do we? At 16 weeks most pregnant women are past the period of morning sickness, but not yet distended enough to have pain from the distension. Of course this kid was 9 and she had twins.

Well, then since we don't know where her pain is coming from, we should abort her so that she'll no longer have pain. Is this medicine?

[Ben Kenobi]

He's been quite forthright in the past that he believes the man makes the decision and the wife stays in the kitchen ("likes to cook!").

I have been quite fortunate in my life to meet a beautiful woman who does enjoy cooking. So they do exist! Just because my preferences are different from yours doesn't make mine wrong.

[Asher]

Sure it does, just like your preference to enslave black people is wrong.

[Ben Kenobi]

Sure it does, just like your preference to enslave black people is wrong.

You're comparing the desire for a woman to cook with slavery? Wow. Life must suck for you Asher. No wonder you are gay.

[Asher]

You're comparing the desire for a woman to cook with slavery? Wow. Life must suck for you Asher. No wonder you are gay.

No, your requirement of obedience of women is what invites the comparison.

And yeah, Ben. Life sucks for me, not you. I'm the one stuck going nowhere in life with only my palm and my delusions to keep me going.

[Ben Kenobi]

No, your requirement of obedience of women is what invites the comparison.

I wrote Ephesians? And people call me delusional? Yes, part of a Christian marriage is that the wife is supposed to obey her husband, not out of compulsion, but out of desire. Another part of Christian marriage, is that the husband is to love his wife, and to be willing to die to preserve her. Just like Christ and his Church.

And yeah, Ben. Life sucks for me, not you. I'm the one stuck going nowhere in life with only my palm and my delusions to keep me going.

I suppose I could be like you and become gay when I couldn't satisfy a woman. That's the ticket. I'm sure to be happy when I'm gay.

[Asher]

Wake up, Ben. You cannot and you will not ever satisfy a woman.

[Ben Kenobi]

Wake up, Ben. You cannot and you will not ever satisfy a woman

A gay guy dissing others for not satisfying women? Next up - Jack Chick dissing the Pope for his rigidity.

[Guynemer]

I'm fairly certain Asher has satisfied more women than you have.

[Ben Kenobi]

I'm fairly certain Asher has satisfied more women than you have.

Do ****girls count as women?

[Asher]

Way back in my wayward youth, I had a girlfriend and we did ****. She was also pretty (to be fair, so was I back then ).

So your attempts to mock my sexuality just further highlight how sad your life has been. Yeah, I'm gay, so what? Last week we celebrated our ninth anniversary. God must hate us.

[Ben Kenobi]

So your attempts to mock my sexuality

with only my palm and my delusions to keep me going.

Apparently sauce for the goose is not sauce for the gander.

Last week we celebrated our ninth anniversary.

Where am I dissing your homosexuality? I'm dissing your experience with women, not men. If you were in a loving, satisfying relationship with a woman, then yes, I could see you arguing about my inexperience. But you aren't.

Why should I give you more credence then say, guynemer? At least guynemer knows what the **** he's talking about.

[Guynemer]

Asher has ****ed more women than you have.

Asher has had more relationships, with women or men, than you have. Or ever will, for that matter, given your very revealing "I would not allow her" comments.

You have no leg to stand on.

[Ben Kenobi]

Asher has ****ed more women than you have.

Well sure, he wasn't waiting for marriage.

Asher has had more relationships, with women or men

So satisfying a man is the same as satisfying a woman? Really, guy? That surprises me considerably that you'd say this.

Or ever will, for that matter, given your very revealing "I would not allow her" comments.

So your assertion is that any Christian who wants a Christian marriage per Ephesians 5 is going to remain alone all their life? I have plenty of evidence to the contrary, from Christian friends who are married.

You have no leg to stand on.

Well, let's see. You're arguing with me about the quality of my love life. I, personally, am amused by all the assumptions people are throwing around. I should have put that she'd wear flip flops instead of going barefoot when she's in the kitchen baking me a pie.

I have had multiple pretty Christian ladies bake me a cake before just because. Good times.